In 17 years of WoW

Never before have I played a class spec as mind-numbingly boring as MM on the PTR. By the end of the run, I was practically begging for it to be over.

Even WotLK’s iteration of MM—despite lacking all the modern quality-of-life features we now consider essential—felt better than this. Why? Because it was dynamic and fast-paced. We were supposed to feel like Legolas, not a clunky catapult. This version? It’s not even close. I dipped into Classic recently and was shocked at how well Combat, MM, Survival, and even Unholy held up. How is it possible to design a spec worse 17 years later?

I’m not a fan of specs where one misstep leads to severe punishment with little reward. And let’s be real: modern M+ and raiding are chaotic enough as it is. Right now, MM isn’t winning any fans or dropping Enhancement-levels of performance, what do we want out of this classic spec?

I want to play my character and feel like I’m one step away from winning the lottery. This is the exact opposite—as if Blizzard handed me a spreadsheet and said, “Here, calculate your taxes while standing in fire.”

In short, it’s boring, slow, and it sucks - especially in single target and M+.

  • Triple the proc rate of surging shots.
  • Pair improved streamline with Master Marksman. No talent that drastically reduces the cast of Aimed Shot should be that deep in the tree. What? Do you want to give players the option to go slower than this? Madness.
  • Increase Master Marksman’s bleed damage
  • Improve Auto Shot’s swing speed (Hunters were supposed to be Legolas, agile ranged Rogues).
  • Lower some abilities’ throughput accordingly. Let the spec be awesome for once.

MM right now has severely suffers from a lack of identity and its fantasy is lacking.

It might be controversial, but aside from the current QoL changes that were added to MM like the eagle, being able to cast Bloodlust without the pet, and the rest of it, I wouldn’t change DF’s MM. Trueshot felt special. Fast and hard-hitting. The spec just needed a buff. Trueshot should feel like ascendance, impactful not boring.

Speaking of which, how long is this spec going to be terrible for M+? Seriously? We had a couple of good weeks in Shadowlands before Wild Spirits were nerfed. THAT WAS IT. But at the same time Blizzard left Fire Mage and Balance be broken for the entirety of the season. Unreal.

Thank God this class has survival to save the show, because given how mechanically dull, and draining the alternative BM is, I’m sure this class would be dead to me.

And people complained about Outlaw in DF? Sure it was a bit much for some, but at least it was interesting, engaging and kept the player invested every second of it.

i am enjoy the content and i can’t wait to go home from work (night shift :face_exhaling:) to play it. I am going on with my hunter as i always play and find it fun and enjoyable in OW and some content, i am not an big raid player i do dimple myself in normals and heroic from time to time but I don’t aim too high tho… i am playing Hunter as its my most played class from end of WoD and begining of Legion and right now with the 11.1 i disagree with you completely, i like the faster spending of AS, i like i can put focuses in other stats to increase my dps overall while talents give me Haste, i like the new eagle pet also the CC it brings and how i can change with one click if i want more dps alone or tank a boss with my pet, i like how i can run more freely while only be grounded when i use AS also i can’t say how good and missed that DoubleTaps talent it is/was for two big crits AS its heavly on DpsMeter and it shows… also i like i can play more Santinel insted of DR for now, i played only DR everywhere so its nice to have a “new” gameplay once in a while… yes it my be boring but for you, for me (i can asure you there are many more players then the ones whining on forums) and everyone’s else whitch likes theyr hunter main class and won’t change so easly, its not perfect and there is always time to improve but i really enjoy what they did with the MM also SV got some nice touches whitch I, personally appreciate it. Overalls the talents rework i find it nicely and its better then what we got in at the beginning of Expansion and all the patches till now. Big W for Blizzard at least from my P.O.V., not everyone are the same opinions as you and there is always other sides you have to take in consideration aswell.

I’m glad you’re having fun. However, I’m only talking about the core gameplay of the spec, not the quality of life changes that you mentioned like the eagle. That I agree, it’s awesome.

I do M+ and a bit of mythic raiding. The core rotational aspects of the spec is 95% of it.

the game is made with being simple in mind, the only thing which requires a bit of brain and thinking ahead is from the higher keys in M+ and above heroic in raids which i think more then half players playing daily won’t achive any time soon. if more people would have find the spec boring, with way too simple mechanics and avergage to bad, then the playerbase of that spec won’t be as played compared to better ones but from what i know, i saw, i see and I checked the hunters even with all that crying over forums and other places didn’t change the % of playerbase hunters at least not drasticaly. So, how this people find the spec being boring yet keep nimble dimble all day so the statisics catch it and says its one of the most played range class over the population not just in one region. I can’t argue with ya, you do mythic DGs also raids 95% above you know for sure better then me if you find it to be soo bad and boring but, statistics never lie and if all the whinging and crying was legit then the hunter play time were not near what they are, right ???

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