In case you missed: 500 WoW Team workers voted to unionize

Source: https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/24/24205366/world-of-warcraft-developers-form-union-blizzard-entertainment

I really congratulate those devs for making it through and unionizing! I hope your new gained possibilities help you make your working experience and World of Warcraft as a whole better and more welcoming to everyone. :smiley:

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From a European perspective, it still amazes me that this is big news. But better working conditions and more worker rights are always a good thing.

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I’m happy that they were able to get it done before normally being fired in the US for wanting to have a union.

It’s unfortunate how the work ethic is over there in the US, but I wish them the best. However, I doubt this will help to improve the overall quality of World of Warcraft or other titles, which are being worked on.

Maybe it will help to stop the abusive working conditions that some employers place on their employees.

Anyway, tell them to get back to work, we need to get these bugs fixed!

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Who cares really.

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Exactly 
 but I think in the US, the general feeling is Union = Communism going back to the McCarthy era or possibly even earlier.

I have no idea if the European Blizz people are unionised though I would guess so as it’s normal here and the Versailles employees certainly were as they managed to delay the closure for quite a while.

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Just wondering here but why is it nearly everytime blizzard makes headlines these days there is always the word “inclusive” or “diverse” or something else similar in the title :thinking:

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Buzzwords attract.

Which in its own way is sad because the US had decently sized unions that by and large were hard fought for by workers who felt they didn’t get enough compensation for how they were treated. Of course some of these strikes and uprisings led to massacres when they clashed with the owner’s police/hired milita (since some business owners more or less owned the entire area around their business) which in return forced the government to react and in the end allow for unions and write up laws for better work conditions.

The “red scare” and higher emphasis on individuality was an easy way for large business owners to attempt to shift people away from unions and better employee bargaining power though. Of course these days the good ol’ bit of union busting isn’t all that uncommon of a practice within companies such as Starbucks for one.

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You cared enough to post. And i kinda do. Its good to see workers organising themselves for their own good.

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A lot of people actually care about it
except for you it seems

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my friends love me :slight_smile: :rofl: :joy: :innocent:

It’s tough being stuck in 2016 gamergate and have Jordan Peterson as one of your favourite internet personalities these days. Need something to hold on to.

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I wouldn®t trust the news, It’s good news but then you have “Activision Blizzard is reportedly already making games with AI, and quietly sold an AI-generated microtransaction in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, and people have been laid off.”

so, take it with a grain of salt because these dudes can change whatever instantly.

Wait
 There is QA?

I’m tired of all that garbage. Only people that have the skills required to do a job should be employed. They should never have to meet a quota for a minimum number of ethnics or LGBT people, and should only ever put the best people for the job in any position.

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Personally I usually don’t see the devs at fault, but the management. Usually it’s the management of gaming studios that ruins everything. Because those numbers-pushers have nothing to do with the creative work and are the ones that do call AI-generated stuff “their art”.

Exactly. I am on the same page.

People getting hired for their race, orientation or gender is so wrong.

Instead people should be hired for their personal skill, because that’s a condition everyone can improve on, given the right motivation.

Like, imagine applying to a job and you aren’t getting hired because you have a specific skin color
 Sounds exactly like a racism issue.

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The problem is that the right person for the job isn’t necessarily being hired in the first place because of bias in the hiring process. A quota is there for two reasons. One is to have a field be more representative of society as a whole in terms of employment but the other and more important one is to make the business look at their hiring process so they can identify potential bias towards hiring or not hiring specific demographics.

Sometimes the bias is obvious but other times (often in bigger corporations) it’s lodged in their sorting algorithm that can throw away applications from perfectly adequate and qualified prospects because they don’t fully fit the profile of what it’s been programmed to see as the standard prospect most likely to get the job.

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that’s who I was thinking of when reading news like this. workers could team up but it’s the Illuminati that has a final say.

Nope. I goto comedy events and then go home and read the better comedy from people like you raging at leftist comedians on your facebook page.

Thank you. I take that as a compliment.

No just right wingers think that lad. I’m a woke leftist remember?

Yes
 That says it all.

Aww sweetheart. Do you kiss your mom with that mouth? Sorry a woke leftist triggers you so much.

Are you sure I’m the perpetually triggered one?