There are dungeons where you can wipe twice and still have plenty of time to finish in time… The timer for Mists of Tirna is very strict. A single wipe and you’re out of time. Even if you don’t wipe you can lose a lot of time on the first boss and the mist maze. I would like to see a bit longer timer.
Halls of Attonement timer is very unforgiving too. Especially since the dungeon has no checkpoints. If you wipe you must run back all the way from the entrance. I would like a checkpoint at the second boss if you kill him or the third one.
You do realize those two are probably the easiest instances this expansion. I mean a checkpoint after boss two in HoA could be a thing, but Mists IMO is very forgiving right now
Just my opinion ofc, YMMV
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I completely agree with Halls, it’s incredibly tight this week, I’ve missed a few times this week with good groups. But the Mists is absolutely fine, it does allow for an error or two.
The trade off for the short timer is that they are both free passes, there is no challenge found in either on either affix week.
De other side also used to have a similar timer but it was actually kinda hard to hit, so it was changed.
Uh, what? I’ve +2 it on +10 even with several wipes.
The what? Stop bringing bad dps and start learning how the maze works.
Up to +15 at least you can wipe lists and hoa once and make the timer without much stress imo.
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Mists does have checkpoints, that’s why you want to bring at least one person with the associated covenant in higher keys.
Managed to time HoA 15 with 8 deaths on my tank yesterday, you need to do some large pulls with heavy kiting and that’s about it.
+10 is nothing. Try it on +15
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I’ve timed a 14 mist with 9 deaths, as the tank it was my first 14 and I ruined the Pride spawns.
I think it is sort of a trade off. Sort of easy dungeons but hard timer. Or difficult dungeon like NW but stupid easy timer when you do it right. Plaguefall also has an easy timer.
(I by the way totally dispise last boss mists on tyrannical and i cant express how terrible the last 2 bosses were with explosives.)
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Not to be like that, but I checked you up after you said it’s impossible to time it if you wipe.
You’re parsing grey.
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Plague has easy timer because of the poor buffs available. In general, the more powerful the buffs, the strict the timer.
I don’t even have a necrolord in my team 
But NW has big buffs and is just by that stupidly easy to time 
Mists and halls are the easiest for me…
I think though Sanguine depths timer needs a slight increase and that spires fly with the kyrian thing… Is absurdly annoying, must be taken care of
Mists and Halls are some of the easiest dungeons currently, imo if any dungeon’s timers need tweaking its Sanguine or DOS.
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Nah, Halls is one of the harder dungeons to time in 20+ range so he has a point. All these casuals telling how easy halls and mists are have never played in 20+ range lol.
MoTS and HoA are the easiest dungeons. Timed a +17 MoTS with two silly wipes and a huge mess up of CDs this week. Granted this week is a joke but still… Let’s not ask for unnecessary things…
He’s not doing 20s though. He’s parsing gray in Nathria. Not likely he pulls that much better dps in keys.
Yeah then he shouldn’t complain about timers.
You wanna play compare the raider profiles game? Okay, why should we listen to someone with 831 score, who has only done +12 in time, and hasn’t killed a single boss in Nathria on any difficulty?