Every class is good for +15s
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Itâs a good news and fair for those who like to progress with a bit of a challenge outside â raiding â content.
But we both know what class is the best 
Yes, Rogues 
Not in s4 
That remains to be seen, they might still be top tier not just bc of Shroud but having insane AOE dmg. I wouldnt be so sure about rogues no longer being top tier
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Thatâs common for eye beamâŚ
Top tier sure, not the best DD
Put your faith in the fel!
If only we could spam fel Lance in pve 
Itâs not a bad move, but that also means that the new affix in S4 better not be as terrible as the emissaries. At this point as casual I can get mythic raid gear ilvl items with a lot of persistence and luck. In 8.3 that means Iâll have âgit gudâ and put in more effort to get the same level of gear, which I might never obtain. Currently practicing to get +12 and higher done, but I have the advantage of having mythic raid gear, which I wonât have next season.
Best news for a while. 15s are no joke for most players but at least us plebs who canât do much Mythic raiding but do enjoy M+ quite a bit can stay in the game
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Itâs a good compromise.
If you want mythic quality gear, do 15 which is more than fair enough if they scale the dungeons higher.
+10 is literally a walk in the park and it should not give you mythic quality piece.
Couldnât care less either way. 
You elitists, just donât care about us m+ players 
It lessens the gap, which is really good, but the problem still persists.
M+ is gonna farmably reward gear 10 ilvls less than mythic quality, which is a good change, and definitely fair since a +15 is harder than any HC boss.
However itâs still so low that itâs gonna get irrelevant if you raid mythic, and youâre still gonna feel forced to raid mythic to push keys, and this thing is really gonna suck for my alts, but oh well.
The weekly chest going up to +15 rewarding mythic quality is good, but it also introduces a problem. Now every remotely serious player is gonna be forced to do +15 every week, for that 5 ilvl difference, which is so low compared to the difficulty gap between 10 and 15.
Groups in the 10-14 range is gonna be so toxic, since those keys are not gonna matter, so as soon as itâs looking not timed people are gonna leave real quick.
Overall am happy with the change, but i still have my doubts about itâs effectiveness.
And some mystique bosses 
Well at least i have a reason to push M+ more.
I mean, i get why people like to push super high but i donât really like to do that for just more 430 loot in the chest.
At least next season gear from chest will matter more, first weeks will give good gear and i will have a new title and a mount to aim at.
Blizzard should give those reward every season tbh
I am wondering what a +10 will reward in next season. I assume it will be a bit lowered so 10-14 would not be the same 
now be ready for another post from Vinzora complaining about the reward being from +15 only 
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Yea, probably harder than first 3 mythic EP bosses.
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I can definitely say that about champions of the light in s2.
Wouldnt be faire for me to say anything about mythic EP cause I chose not to farm perls.
But I trust you 
From what we have right now, +10 is gonna reward mythic - 5 ilvl and then jump to +15, but i wouldnât mind smoothing it out.