This might happen, but not in 2-3 months, maybe with Wrath Classic release or something they might unlock transfers, depending on how they deal with the whole Era thing. Perhaps TBCC will become part of Era servers and you can then transfer between them or something. Surely it won’t happen soon enough for it to influence “progress” on TBCC tho.
Can you people read the comments before you start spamming about stuff thats already covered?
I wouldnt be so sure. They just dont want to meantion any of it now because that would eat away at the money they will make with the copies. They wouldnt be able to transfer a copied character anyway so it would have to be for characters that “stay” in classic or new characters
Progress in TBCC is already touched with the boost because TBCC is from 1-70 regardless of what blizzard advertise it to be.
God, read the rest of it.
If a person that will stay in vanilla classic gives you the gold right now, snapshot happens later, then you go into TBC → buy a clone → give their gold back = you effectively duplicated the gold on vanilla classic.
I’m not freaking about this but it needs to be considered as well. Why are you so close to every bit of discussion?
The split effectively duplicates every single thing on the server, because 2 separate servers are created. If you take a gold of your friend to TBC, he doesn’t take it to Era, and when you pay for a copy, you just return the gold that is rightfully his. In effect you pay however much the copy will cost to have your friends who won’t play TBC give you their gold. It does not get created out of thin air. It’s just effectively quitting people giving you their gold (and Blizz profitting in the process)
Ok let’s discuss in an example:
Player A(this is you) has 10k gold.
Player B(your friend) has 10k gold.
If B quits the game and gives his gold to A > A will have 20k gold. (lump sum of gold is 20k)
In our case:
If they do what I said, A will have 20k gold on TBC, 10k on vanilla and B will also have 10k in vanilla. (an extra 20k will be created, as expected, because of a duplication with TBC, but the important thing here is that player A will now have 20k gold on TBC instead of his initial 10k he would otherwise have.)
It is effectively like B quitting the game, its true, but the issue is that B didn’t actually quit the game. So there is no reason for B to not give his gold to A for the time being until the snapshot, which kind of incentivizes this and effectively more gold will go into TBC than it would otherwise.
Do I have a solution for this? No. It is a complicated issue and needs to be discussed through by the devs. And I geniuinely think that giving an optional clone was a good decision by Blizzard.
The issue now is that all players know that a snapshot will be taken.
I think we agree on what takes place and why. I just don’t think it’s a problem that “quitting” players give their gold to ones who go ahead into TBCC.
This will, if allowed, likely be done by a small amount of the players simply because player B has to stay in Classic Era to get their golds worth.
Best case scenario Blizzard just cracks them down and deletes the gold and/or bans them, specific actions like you described would leave a clear trail of crumbs.
Worse scenarios they implement the controversial gold cap on transfer or just scrap Classic Era which is highly unlikely.
There is no elegant solution to this.
It incentivizes them to give their gold to someone before quitting as well because it will benefit player A and player B can get their money back in the future all the same anyway because of cloning.
They need to acknowledge it first and make a plan for this.
Probably, yeah. But I also don’t think they would ban anyone over this. I guess they will do nothing and just let it sort itself (TBC will be pretty inflated anyways)
This is what it says on the faq page, you pay to activate the TBCC clone, there is no transfer. Wether or not that will be available in the future is possible but I think it’s not very likely as that would give you an unfair advantage, you could level without being ganked by 70s.
What is a Character Clone
A clone is a snapshot copy of your WoW Classic character taken right before the Burning Crusade Classic pre-patch.
WoW Classic characters that existed before the Burning Crusade Classic pre-patch will each be automatically cloned onto their respective Classic Era realm. You don’t have to do anything.
The Character Clone service gives you a choice: you can —for free— activate your Progression realm clone and play the Burning Crusade Classic expansion, or you can —for free— activate your Classic Era clone and continue playing WoW Classic. You can pay a fee to activate both.
Yes yes yes i know what it says. Im talking about down the line. They obviously wouldnt meantion/advertise transfers and clones at the same time.
This requires that someone wants to stay in Classic Era. But I believe it is possible to duplicate gold into TBC.
A has 10k and B has 10k. B gives 10k to A. A now has 20k. Snapshot is taken
A has 20k in TBC and B has 0 gold in Classic Era.
A buys a copy into Classic Era and has now 20k in TBC and in Classic Era. A then returns 10k to B in Classic Era. Both has the original amount of 10k each in Classic Era but A also has 20k in TBC. Meaning he duplicated gold into TBC and no gold was lost in Classic Era.
All these theories do require someone to pay an unspecified amount of money to enable a character he will probably never play again. Let’s hope bliz does the sensible thing and asks 100€ or more to play on both eras
Well, no this is incorrect.
It will be as Albac said at most.
Player A will have 20k on TBC+ Classic on snapshot at least.
Player B will have 0 gold on TBC+Classic.
Player A will be required to pay real ££ in order to clone himself back to the classic server in which then you’ll be able to give 10k gold back to player B.
But this only works, if your player B does not ever want to play TBC.
In general, duplicating gold in TBC is impossible as it’s not duplicated.
The gold in general will be the same amount of gold that would’ve been going into TBC in the first place.
But I haven’t said otherwise???
If player A can find a player B that will stay on vanilla era, then they can INJECT more money into TBC.
Albac wrote what I exactly wrote in summary.
Agree its not really duplicating. But A dublicated his gold into TBC+ (in this scenario) through his friend that stayed in Classic Era.
The correct way to put it. B gave A his gold but in the end didnt lose the gold since he didnt transfer to TBC+.
The way you describe does not add more gold to either game. It just moves it about and costs real money to one player.
But they’re not injecting more money into TBC.
This will require the entire person not to join into TBC at all.
This will also require real life ££ and alongside trusting the random player that’ll stay on vanilla.
In the way you describe it, one player will get 20k on TBC and the other 20k on Classic Era.
This doesn’t really duplicate it, it just basically remains the same amount of gold as before.
It is also not repeatable at all.
20K on classic era can also be easily acquired by both players keeping their 10k and copying their cash as well
It’s more duplicating it in the Classic Era rather than the TBC Era.
But we also don’t know when they’re hitting the snapshot.
So you wouldn’t be able to prepare this in advance, unless you hand over all the gold now for example.
Ok yeah error 101.
It does. As we examplified above, when player A was going to go into TBC with 10k and player B was going to stay in vanilla with 10k, now the situation is that player A is going to TBC with 20k and player B is also staying in vanilla with 10k, effectively injecting more gold into TBC than it was first foreseen.
There are a lot of players(at least in the more hardcore playerbase) that will go into TBC but also clone their characters to vanilla era servers as a souvenir, keepsake and log in every once in a while to see old friends. Those players won’t clone only to carry gold. They will clone anyway because they still will have friends in vanilla era servers and they will want to keep their memories, maybe do some pvp every now and then etc.
Now they can do what we explained above. So, for them, carrying gold doesn’t cost any extra real life money at all.
Out of curiousity, why did you decide to infest this thread as well? Are they giving you a bonus for every other discussion that you poisoned or are you just doing as a loyal servant?
Let some sapiens discuss about the game in a sapiens manner, it is called the “TBCC Discussion” forum.