Is classic even worth it?

WoW Classic Cataclysm Classic Discussion
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Whats the appeal, really? I’m trying to get into it, but just cant so far. I began playing wow august 2005, I’ve been there, done that. I dont wanna do the zones and quests I’ve done countless times. I did the dungeons and raids. It was fun and new back then, but now everything just seems outdated and inconvienient.

The community is not the same. Back then everyone were noobs and having a good time, not knowing what would happen next. Now, people are playing pretend-world-first in a 15+ year old game. Wrath isnt even out yet but you people already know what zones and paths to lvl in, what dungeons to spam at max lvl, what drops you need from what raid bosses etc.

Why do you play? Is classic new for you, or did you play the original?

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i dont think you need to justify to yourself for not liking something.

if you dont just move on and be glad you have an good opportunity to spend your time elsewhere

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I have time, but DF isnt out yet so I cant play that. Since both classic and retail share sub I decided to try classic in the meanwhile. Since there is plenty of players in classic I’m just curious why, really.

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Look
If its no longer fun for you then why continue playing?

I’m playing cos I actually started playing in the last patch of WOTLK so pretty much missed the entire expansion. So its also a nostalgia thing as well.
And I want to see many different classes so intending to level a fair few :slight_smile:

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It’s not only in “Classic”.

People are going to min/max and get as much informations as possible before any new MMORPG release.

The genre will never be the same as it was in 2005. It was the best era for gaming but it’ll never happen again.

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Ease of access to information ruined entire genre. Companies willing to have their games datamined / leak information and infinite number of guides out online while making it easy to get into games also takes a magical chunk of exploration, imagination and satisfaction of spending your time to find something unique at the end of a road that you didn’t know existed. mmorpgs will never be the same sad times.

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I’ve played on many private servers, so I’m far from new. But even if you are new, there so so many videos from youtubers out there, trying to make “content” for a living, that tell you exactly whay to do.

At this point, I’m just waiting for the Riot MMO to, hopefully, uninstall not only WoW but Battlenet too and be done with this joke of a company once and for all.

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play since 2006

i like it because it reminds me of time of no worries

now i work day and night just to sustain myself

back then i just go to high school and drink

good times

also good game

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I dunno, FFVII remake is objectively better than FFX but FFX is the only FF game I would replay.
Breath of the Wild is objectively better than OoT but I only ever played it once, I play OoT every single year.

I’m completely fine with playing the same games forever.

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I started in 2006, played right through to cata then stopped. Came back just for classic and im still enjoying every second of it! My only downside is the lack of RL friends i used to play with but ive made do mostly alone, but still to me this is when WoW was true to its self and truly one of the best mmos ever made. Wotlk is the cherry on the cake.

Ventured into shadowlands after i started classic & played old content, maxed a couple of characters but it just isnt wow to me anymore, every aspect of it is just alien.

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Getting retail vibes since the pre-patch with classes being so overtuned and mobs / encounters being the same or even nerfed. Probably taking a look into what Wotlk actually offers, but I think Vanilla / TBC being the prime of the classic “classic experience”, with strict constraints to player power and the overall game balance being more in line with old school RPGs

I am afraid that the overall degeneration of demanding content and gameplay also leading to more degenerative player behaviour, damaging the social aspect of the game, which is basically the main reason why I started with classic in the first place

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I could tell you the zone design in Wrath is better, the music, the atmosphere, the quest design etc etc. I could tell you that. And it would be true imo. At least by comparison to BFA and Shadowlands.

But put simply, the gameplay loop is more satisfying.

In retail, which, I will go back to for a bit during Dragonflight; when you get a piece of gear, it’s never satisfying.

If you do a M+ 10 and get a decent belt or chest, there’s this niggling voice in the back of my head going, what’s the point, if you do this at +11, I can get the exact same item, just 3 ilvl higher… when I get a piece of gear, I want it to be impactful. Either because it’s bis, or maybe it’s situational. Like, example, the Shattrath Leggings or whatever you get from a quest in Netherstorm. I wore those for like 5 months on my Ret Pala. That’s satisfying, and it leaves you time to do other things in game, gear an alt or whatever.

Retail has you running around, farming rares all day for 1% drop chance mount, and to farm rep. If I’m farming rep, I want the dailies to give me a decent amount, and then boom, I’m done. I go play an alt, or I play a different game, or y’know, go outside. I don’t want to feel like I have to farm rares for 2 more hours. And in TBC, in most cases you’d be done in about a month, slightly longer. In BFA, man, the Uldum and Panda reps were a massive slog, with little to no reward at the end.

Retail is fine, but it doesn’t respect your time in the way Classic does. Even from a collection perspective, if you get a rare mount in Classic, it’s like, one of a handful of rare drop mounts. In Retail who cares if you get that 1% drop reskin of an old mount, there’s probably 20 other colour variations.

I’ve made it sound a bit like I hate retail. I don’t, I play both. Retail provides a level of challenge that Classic can’t. Raids are harder and have more mechanics, M+ keeps you on your toes.

But I prefer Classic because it’s simple I guess. It plays to WoWs strengths. It allows me to play the game I want to play it. In retail I feel like, you’re forced to engage with content in an unnatural way, there’re just so many gimmicks nowadays.

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Call it play pretend all you like but this 15+ year game objectively is a far better mmorpg than any other mmorpg in the market except for FF14 and Oldschool Runescape . FF14 is not my cup of tea and i’ve maxed in OSRS 1.5 year ago . So here i am

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this what i always this about. but i am always playing it for fun-no rush-no first in any thing. i enjoy the mobs enjoy the quest enjoy the dungeon and love it into my heart if blizzard let us. so yes its worth it if people play with they heart. play what they love to not what the website or streamer says. play how they want to not how they must. talk to each other love each other. some time when i talk to people or doing some thing for free in wow they just dont belive some one is out there to think like that to act like that. so i think we need to change our self and be good to each other and really enjoy what we have for 15years in our life. yes or no wow now is part of our life so love it guys

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I feel bad for people that are so cynical about Classic. The game at a core is good, WoW became popular and still holds a top position in the market for a reason. Moment to moment gameplay is just fun.

And every time this convo pops out people are moaning about “back in my days we did x and now people do y” or “nowadays everyone knows everything and they min/max too much”, “actually world first was 15 years ago”. Perspective so shallow that it can come only from someone who doesn’t really play classic outside of hype windows. People still discover new things about the game and achieve things that “back in the days” were literally not imaginable.

To put it shortly "The game, is fun. The game, is a battle. If its not fun, why bother? If its not a battle, wheres the fun? "

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A lot of people play just for the nostalgia. Doing things that they always wanted to do when they were younger, now that they have the ability and knowledge to do so. Classic also progresses and releases content at a good enough pace to keep people interested

I’m playing because I really like my specs gameplay and progression as classic has gone through the expansions. Shadow is super fun in all aspects of the game and I only played it a bit at the end of wrath originally. I want to do it all on shadow this time

Outside of combat I am working on the insane title and just stuff I wanted to do back in the day. Farming the Strat UD mount, farming tons of gold, making alts, doing all pvp achievements, clearing the raids with my guild weekly and alt clears just for fun. My guild does not have a single person with that “world first gamer” mindset

I play retail on and off but the pace of updates has been so bad for a long time. I play for 1-2 months and feel completely done with the game. Getting into pug raids on retail is so much more annoying than on classic, even though heroic is (usually) very easy like every raid on classic. Both games have the same GDKP/Boosting issues, but I completely avoid it on classic due to having an active guild. I’ve found it hard to find a stable guild that doesn’t enter mythic on retail

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Implying riot MMO won’t be datamined and there will be 7 million guides the very first day.

Era of information is not a Blizzard issue. Every MMO release after 2010 was massively documented even before they opened the servers.

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Personally just playing because I enjoy classic at bursts. I’d play for a few days/weeks and take a few months break. However… Wrath made me realize how much I missed that class design. Druids feel amazing, so do mages(i want to hit 78 for frostfire bolts already), so do death knights(especially death knights feel so much better to play than retail ones it’s crazy), etc. :slight_smile:
Also while I have played alot I still discover new things or rediscover things I haven’t seen for years due to the cataclysm revamp of everything. There are still zones I never quested at, professions I never did, dungeons I never did as current/intended. Annd…yeah. I allow myself to not care at all about power progression. I hit 70 on my druid and haven’t logged on her since. Endgame kinda just doesn’t interest me there for some reason.
And honestly despite the clown fiesta that people started about rdf it’s playable. Less convenient but you can still find dungeons easily. Orr…maybe i was just lucky.

Edit: Also a major gripe I’ve had with class design is nonexistent here. Skills like frostbolt & fireball being fillers rather than actually impactful feels really bad for how iconic they are. You cast less, your actions have actual consequences on your mana that at the same time allows for your spells to be more impactful while available.

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TBC and WOTLK are the best expansions in wow by far, thats why. Vanilla was also very good/special in that the world was so big/plentiful, but not so good in some important ways. Cata and onwards is just an aoe-fest/rewards a static play-style, boring, really isnt difference between classes, just roles.

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Nostalgia, the fact it’s more of an MMO than an E-Sport, and having a more chill raid experience than retail.

Unfortunately it’s absolutely blighted by GDKPs and boosting services where the goal is clearly and absolutely to make as much gold as possible and sell it for real money, which massively inflates prices on everything. Also the fact you absolutely do not need a decent guild to do anything at all like back in the day; just pay for it, makes it pretty miserable.