Is Hearthstone Lore canon in WoW?

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Hello there! I recently played Rastakhan’s Rumble and I was wondering a bit about the Loa for the Paladin team, Shirvallah.

Shirvallah: https://wow.gamepedia.com/Shirvallah

Now as far as we are aware Rezan the Loa of Kings grants Zandalari Prelates their belief and power, however Hearthstone choose Shirvallah not Rezan. Now what I am wondering is that if I were to say choose my Prelate to worship and draw power from Shirvallah instead of Rezan would that be frowned upon? Not sure on what the consensus with the Lore here is.

What about in general? Should Hearthstone be ignored when it comes to Warcraft Lore?

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Hearthstone lore should be counted as non-canon until things from Hearthstone gets added in WoW, like the Tortollans.

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Hearthstone = WoW
but
WoW =/= Hearthstone

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Hearthstone in WoW is like any card game we have in real life. The game is real, the ‘lore’ not so much (unless they add things into the game later).

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Blizzard already said, around the release of the old god expansion, that any lore in hearthstone should be treated as an alternate reality and a “what if” rather than actual WoW lore.

However, the game itself as a playing game is canon within WoW.

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With very limited exceptions, Hearthstone has always been separate from WoW lore, the only exception being Skycap’n Kragg, who was introduced in the Grand Tournament expansion and appeared in the Freehold dungeon.

I’d have to assume that quite a few people in-game would probably find Hearthstone distasteful, given the Frozen Throne expansion where Uther and Malfurion (and the other 7 class heroes) become death knights. Would probably rub quite a few characters the wrong way.

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So a troll paladin gaining power from Shirvallah is off the cards then?

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Shirvallah exists to some extent within WoW lore as well, just not as an npc.

´https://wow.gamepedia.com/Shirvallah´

And Thekal is listed as canon as well and was part of original Zul Gurub, having previously used light magic from Shirvallah, so I wouldn’t say its impossible. I think it should be fine.

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morgl is aslo in wow and tortolans come from hs aswell

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An interesting note is that the Zandalari skin for the doomhammer is a warmace devoted to Shirvallah, she does indeed exist, she is heard laughing at Vol’jin beside Hireek in the novels.

EDIT: Heck if Rezan is gone for good (Not saying he is) Perhaps it makes sense to worship Shirvallah instead, thats just headcanon though.

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The wiki also states that priests of Shirvallah exists in BfA in Zuldazar, but she is treated as a lesser Loa.

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Definitely not. Trolls can gain power from any loa that they’ve managed to appease. Hearthstone lore isn’t WoW lore but trolls receiving boons as a result of their worship is a big part of WoW troll lore.
Shirvallah exists and as such she can definitely be one of the loas a troll bargains with.

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You two Gnomes are the best :heart:

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To follow up on this, previous troll lore have also multiple times said that aside from the known big Loa’s, there are thousands of smaller Loa’s, from family specific ones to individual specific ones.

So in terms of Loa’s, you got very free reign. As long as they do not outshine the known greater Loa.

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morgl is aslo in wow and tortolans come from hs aswell

That’s true, I did miss out on those as well.

An interesting note is that the Zandalari skin for the doomhammer is a warmace devoted to Shirvallah, she does indeed exist, she is heard laughing at Vol’jin beside Hireek in the novels.

I think it’s best to look at things on a case-by-case basis. A lot of cards in Hearthstone exist just for the expansions (Togwaggle/Rafaam/Hagatha). Normally on the wiki it’ll tell you if the card is based on a WoW NPC or if it’s unique to Hearthstone. The only real exception is the Witchwood expansion, which IIRC plays out more like an alternate timeline where Gilneas isn’t wrecked by the Cataclysm/Sylvanas

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One thing to note with Shirvallah in Hearthstone, however, is that she shares the exact same model as Kimbul, even down to the scar over the eye.

Only difference being is that she wears some gold, but otherwise identical.

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Hearthstone does this far, far too often. See also: Malygos using Kalecgos’ artwork, and Shattered Sun Cleric literally being Liadrin.

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The Witchwood, Old Gods and knights of the frozen throne are probably the biggest clear non-canon ones.

The old adventures are essentially just hearthstone’s version of old raids with a funny spin on them, and the other expacs, such as gnomes vs goblins, tournament, Un’goro, League of explorers, dr.boom one, rise of shadows, and even Rastakan rumble, are more case by case with the cards, since alot of them arent that improbable and just variations from existing WoW lore or stuff that could be added in soon enough.

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Shirvallah does have her left fang broken where Kimbul does not. Could be down to both being similar, Shirvallah being Loa of Tigers and Kimbul being Lord of Beasts, King of Cats and Loa of Tigers too.

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Kimbul is described also as the ‘‘God of Tigers’’, so he clearly outclasses Shirvallah.

But you could def make a Zandalari paladin who gets his/her powers from Shirvallah, nothing strange about that.

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