Is it just me?

Classes Warrior
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I done a lot of keys this season, before the nerfs, after the nerfs, after the buffs. Yet, I cant shake this sinking feeling that Fury Warrior is just… weak.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying you or I cant complete the content. I have completed 13s in time myself, and I am pretty sure 14-15s should be doable in my situation. So, for sure in the content I am doing I can, kinda, pull my own weight. Though, what does that even entail? To carry my own weight, as a warrior, I see that as doing if nothing else close to equal damage to my peers - but sadly this is not the case. In truth, it is more a question of; can my peers work around my lowered DPS values.

At least that is my experience, and this is why I ask here, so I get to know if it is simply just me being a bit of a doomer, or if warrior simply just is that down bad.

My Fury AoE burst is nothing to write home about anymore. It might reach 8 million, true, but others do the same if not more. Even if I get god-procs, and for Slayer procs seems to be the only way to do damage, then I might even have a visual lead on that pack for a few seconds. Only to see that gap closed in a fraction of the time and overcome by a crushing margin.

On average I will sit around 1.6-1.9mill overall, the others usually 200-300k above. Sure, it is kind of close, I can pretend that the AP% value helps to cower this. But I will be honest, I feel like a bag of so much human processed matter my friends got to carry around.

Does this get evened out, or is this the situation Slayer Fury will just be in for the rest of this season in M+ if not the rest of the TWW saga. No burst, no real damage - kinda just existing. No high, only lows, living of the good will of others…

Playstyle is fun - sure (gimped burst profile aside), gameplay is great. Yet, numbers simply are not there. They are bound into procs that are either feast or famine, and the burst AoE of Bladestorm with Odyn’s (the portion of our burst AoE damage we got control over) is not even noticeable anymore. Why they moved damage from our controlled situation to the realm of the RNG gods, I will never understand. Is that really better game design.

Am I wrong about this? Is Slayer Fury in reality really strong. Am I simply playing it wrong?

I don’t know. All I know is what I see, and what I see is simply pretty grim. I look at the breakdown after the key and think, “they should clearly have brought someone else than me”.

Slayer Fury seems to be a spec for others to carry, not to carry with.

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I feel exactly the same way. As Fury i am at the bottom of the DPS list, as Arms i am at the top 3 most of the time. It is so weird.

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I feel like a doomer since the beginning of the beta…

Same feeling as you, I feel like everything I read and check is not good. While playing a a really differnt M+ level than you, I top the charts in Arms in 90% of my groups. But I struggle to just find a PUG that will take me, even fully geared for a +6 (but that’s not really a warrior issue here, more a DPS issue).

In Pvp, at least I feel like I can do something…

In Pve, as mentioned prior I switched to other classes which are not meta right now, but at least are funnier to play and bring support when needed (WW monk, Arc mage, Blood DK). They have a bit less gear than my warrior, but it’s so fast to gear up to 610 that it’s not even a hassle to just switch over.

I feel like we have the most ancient class with no correct thought process in the making. They are adding something that seems cool (MT for example) but does not play with it or take any risk.

MT for me, is a SMF spec. It should be a SMF oriented spec and I still don’t get why they didn’t take this path…

Anyway, I stop because I can go on and on…

PS: Compared to you Kitty, which from what I see played throughout the last expacs, I stopped for 8 years and coming back in DF was a pleasure. TWW is not and I wonder if I will renew in 10 days as I don’t see the fun in my main class.

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100% agree on this , i also feel like 14-15s are doable but i’m only pulling my weight off barely. I’m only ‘’ ok ‘’ during my cd window for like 5 seconds and i fall off quickly while classes like shamans and dks exists. There are lots of questions in my mind like why arent we at least 8 target capped like everyone else or why even the last soft target cap happened. Currently after getting like nerfed 4th time our supposedly niche burst aoe which is lasting around 3 seconds doesn’t even produce numbers. I’m doing like 100-150k more boss damage then other non meta specs thats it while meta specs also has that kinda boss damage ( even more ) while doing a lot more during trash pull while also having utility.
Playing the game for a long time and for a spec to be good the spec either needs to have strong damage or really strong niche profile or utility. During bfa rogues were in because utility and strong st damage for example. Currently fury is in purgatory , jack of all trades master of none. Only positive i’m bringing is me personally not dying.

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After the buffs we can atleast pull our own weight :sweat_smile: :sweat_smile: :sweat_smile:
If you arent performing atleast 90% sure as hell you are not even touching the shadow of your peers . Who bring crazy utility , offheals , bl , cr , dispells to the table .
Dont understand in whose or which universe this is normal .
We still lack dmg heavily compared to others who are much more consistent and bursty(now…) like paladin and dk . They pull 3 mill deeps on packs offcd , 5-10mill oncd , 1.5 mill on bosses and you can pray that you will outdeep atleast the tank :sweat_smile:
Perhaps you could bring up the difficulty argument but this time both of mentioned classes are just as easy if not easier than warrior .
They took away the 1 thing we were kings of and that is burst . Now we are left with " OK " dmg and still the worst utility in the game .

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Yep, we are. Even after the recent buffs we’re clearly behind. I’m playing the spec as best as I can (and I believe im semi-competent) and have 631 ilvl yet I’m still struggling to keep up with people I know are less Ilvl or just not playing their class as well.

This will probably go down as the worst season I’ve ever had, enjoyment wise. It’s been by far the worst getting into keys, more than it usually is (it’s always grindy but this season has been hell around 11-12’s.

I’ve timed 5 12’s yet I still have to wait ages to get into the other’s I’m trying to complete and even then it’s usually only groups that the key leader is way below me in score and just been less fussy.

We need another signifcant buff, like genuinely.

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It’s playing out the exact same way as Dragonflight for all the Warrior specs. They never addressed the group utility gap.