Is m+ dead?

You are nearly 620 ilvl and ret is insane in m+ currently, you also have keys with the same tank from guild over and over again.

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It depends. Delves and AI assisted instances create more DPS players than can be sustained in M+ by amount of tanks and healer there is for group forming.

You need a tank in solos? I mean delves? Really?

Because its MMORPG and its fun to Play in groups.

Also solowimg them is significantly słower then destroying them in full group :slight_smile:

Yes i like playing in full premade group in them :slight_smile:

Sue me :slight_smile:

Yeah kinda why everyone is telling you guys for years to go and find a guild :smiley:

I got more than 4 items. No need for source. Unless I am a bug or something… :smiley:

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2059 rating is not impressive enough to look for groups. Take in mind that doing every dungeon on 8 gets to to ~ 2200/2300 rating. So of course nobody will invite you to 9s.

Start by doing them all in 8 first. You got Grim Batol on 4+… Then you will get invited to keys higher than 8. Or 8s.

From your post I dont know if you are actually interested in doing 8s. But, just in case for other people complaining that they cant get into groups, OR, that others wont join their groups… the reasons are similar to these.

Including OP. Tanks and healers are super picky. If they see 1 DD with 1800 rating sitting on his +8 key… they wont join. They prefer the DD with 2200 rating sitting on his 8+ key.

And for those of us that take M+ in a more systematic way, 1 key level at a time. 1 dungeon at a time… M+ is very much alive. For those that dont, the feeling of “emptiness” is caused by being left behind.

Also. 9+ keys are super valuable at the moment. Because they give you the last tier of crests but they are not yet Fortified + Tyranical of a 10+. And those crests give you 536 crafting gear (myth track) and allow you to upgrade hero gear to 6/6.

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I believe it is a mix of many things making M+ not attractive:

  • Making dungeons a extreamsport in stuns/fears and similar, we are pvE players, not pvP players, not fun at all…
  • So much bugs, how they let some dungeons pass to live, how…
  • Affixes just killing the fun, getting worse in each expansion. Some players might like to play “Surgeon”, but most people don’t…
  • Some classes you can’t even play M+, like take the biggest playerbase is Beastmastery hunters, atm they have no AOE, and therefor automatically eliminated from playing this part of the game.
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It’s your key level. It’s in some limbo that usually 9 would be. Doesn’t give the crest of a 9, isn’t as easy as the lowest one of the crest this drops. Myth goes to the vault from +10. Basically it’s just an unlucky terrible combo. Might as well lower or play with friends because if people can do another level they will, efficiency and all that.

Uda, have you been getting too close to the nerubians? Careful! They might try to transform you. :face_vomiting:

lol not anymore…

It’s the dungeon rotation set, i really disliked shadowlands and the dungeons from there even more.
Putting more time into doing delves across all the characters at this time, maybe if i really need something from a mythic dungeon i might consider running it.

I’ve no idea why they chose these irritating and boring dungeons this season.

Translation - I don’t like delves, therefore no one else does, therefore it’s dead content.

Change the tune, Grandma.

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Wait, what? So if you do more than 4 m+ per week you can’t get gear from any beyond the first 4??

Even with both tank and healer present in a group, it took ages (well…longer than usual) for a DPS to sign up for a +5 Mists.

I suppose it just grants too crappy gear compared to the difficulty. The “M+ gives too good gear, wah wah it’s mandatory, wah wah it negates raiding”-complainers won.

This bugs me as well. Why even cram old dungeons into the new expansion? Absolutely no one of my friends has the least bit of interest in doing Siege of Boralus. Grim Batol is old, and I was done with it years ago.
As for the SL dungeons… just.no.thank.you.

Why can’t they just have the new dungeons in the pool?
And why keep the same pool for an entire season?
I didn’t pay money to play old content. Could have done that easily without paying more money.
If they want to recycle old dungeons, that’s what timewalking is for.

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I think it’s their crappy way of keeping old content relevant. I do not like it either.

Especially for the first tier of an expansion. 2 SL dungeons makes me simply not want to do M+. I did that crap to death in the current expansion.

Yes. As far as my friends are concerned, the pool of available mythic dungeons is too small, since they just refuse to do the old ones. And even though I have fond memories of doing Siege of Boralus back in BFA, I do not disagree with them.

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Ever since the tank changes no one wants to play tank ( they were rare to begin with). Yesterday it took me 1 hour 20 minutes to find a tank for necrotic +10 which got disbanded after first pull