So in the last class tuning we only got 5% buff which didn’t really solve the issue with Havoc Demon Hunters.
In the upcoming class tuning, we don’t have anything. Is this serious ? Does blizzard really want us to play Vengeance DH in order to get into pug groups for +12-15 keys ? Instead they are buffing frost mages who already have 1 good DPS spec which FOTM for keys and raids, assassination rogues that also have a good spec for raids and m+, WW Monks which are doing also fine ( I know its not technically a buff as they are kind of making the dmg with two hander and one handers to be equal), and fury warrior which fair enough I admit they are quite bad but they have arms which is not doing that tragically.
Demon Hunters have 1 AND ONLY 1 DPS SPEC. If that dps spec is bottom tier - u have to play tank. Yes, Vengeance is fotm right now but FFS … JUST GIVE US [Cycle of Hatred] BASELINE AND FIX US. WE ARE SLACKING ON METERS ON ST. ( Even our AOE is not that good compared to hunters/monks/mages/dks/paladins)
We don’t need buffs, we need reworks. I don’t know what people are expecting, just pure numbers won’t fix anything. They nerfed our already half baked talent tree into the ground, we need a rework.
I mean they are buffing classes they already buffed when we got that 5% so after this its probably official we are going to be dead last in dps. Im thinking of taking a break from the game until this is fixed since im not the type to jump from class to class.
I totally agree with you, I get x200 declines everyday to m + keys where all classes are getting invited. Feels like racism and discrimination to Havoc Dh’s that is done on purpose.
Yesterday we were doing friends key, he told me that his guildies told him Dh is bad why do u go with Dh.
Well the patch is their way of buffing the weakest specs right now and that is what it does. DH might not be top tier or anything but its not bottom tier either it’s a middle of the pack spec. So it kinda makes sense that its not getting buffs right now.
Middle of the pack spec compared to what? Only specs below havoc is garbage like survival, frost mage, frost DK, Assa rogue etc that can all respec into a top tier spec
While warriors and DH’s are stuck at the bottom with nothing to respec into, Maybe throw ret in that pile aswell
It’s ridiculous how classes 10 ilvls below you will sim higher than you. I’ve seen a 205 boomie that sims on par with 220 havoc and that is absolutely ridiculous.
Based on logs you acutally have 9 specs behind you in total and the debuff you bring makes you more valuable to the raid than a couple of the specs above you that is just slightly ahead of you. So yeah I would say middle of the pack because thats where the spec is.
oh no all the classes with top tier specs available in one respec click are behind DH? DH’s are totally fine.
Class wise DHs and Warrior’s are at the bottom with nothing to reroll into, If people choose to play frost mage it’s their fault that they don’t have the mental capacity to reroll into fire.
The “buff” you are speaking of is the only reason players will ever bring a havoc, And if the tank spot has a DH you can forget about that buff playing a role.
Also top 200 pvp has 1 DH i think? Damn they must be pretty solid there too.
DH BEST spec is #16 while warrior BEST spec is #15. You can’t say the same about the specs below 16. Ret is down there too. Those are 3 REAL specs that have no other better spec to pick from.
Than we have Arcane, Enhance and Frost DK just above it and the 5% magical debuff more than puts them above them aswell. And after that we got Shadow Priest and 10 more specs above it.
And that is just if we’re looking at mythic in total, if we were to put the percentile down to like 50-60 some of the specs that is slightly above it would acutally be slightly behind it due to Havoc being so easy to play.
You can go to wowhead and check mythic logs for the previous two weeks yourself and see for yourself.
I like how you are ignoring literally everything i’ve written and post the exact specs i just posted, ALL of those except warrior and ret have the option to respec into a top tier spec, Which is once again exactly what i’ve already written.
Boohoo, Classes have some extra specs that are worse than the others, While we have no other dps spec to respec into.
So we are at the bottom with warrior and ret trying to compete with the trash specs of the other classes and that is “above average” according to your simpleton brain
makes sense they dont get a buff? frost mage is also middle tier and they get a 9%dmg buff? frost mages are already dealing more DPS than a DH if u play them correctly.
Hybrid classes should never by top on dps when they can by tank or healer. Top dps should by always classes that can by only one spec/ at least with one spec of those three, which mean rogues,mages,locks, hunters.
Dont try find in my words something that is not there, i only said classes that are pure dps /3 dps specs should have always at least one spec in top and hybrids should not be best dps that dont mean they should by lowest they can by slight behind top specs of pure dps classes.
I think they are just waiting to add some borrowed power into the game and “fix” havoc with those… like in BFA we were only good because of the borrowed powers. Right now they dont know what to do with us or they just simply dont give af. Well im leveling my feral, but i really dont want to switch…