The only cheat death prot paladins have is built-in in ardent defender and it has to be active and he has to die while it’s active for it to save him and it heals him to 20% if it does so and you can often rectify a prot paladin that’s about to die as a healer because they don’t tend to just die instantly, it takes time for them to die.
DKs actually have a cheat death passive in purgatory. But usually when they flop, they’re so deep into purgatory territory that it doesn’t matter what you do as a healer because you can’t get them out of it.
Prot and new Vengeance DH will always be at least in a decent spot, because their case kit is good. Vengeance brings a ton off cc that makes any key a ton easier. Prot brings a bit less of that, but a ton of group support that helps the group live. any other tank needs either busted survivability or damage to be on the same level.
Basically the same as with most classes. Some classes will always be in a decent spot, because the base kit is good, like mages or rogues. Other, like warriors for example, will have to have busted damage to be on an equal playing field.
There definitely arent any tank specs that are absolutely awful. I havent checked, but I m sure any tank can complete everything the game has to offer, except the absolute top end of m+.
That being said, most of the time its not a question of “can this tank do the content” but “why do I WANT to have this tank in my group?”. All things being equal, there currently is no reason to take a brewmaster over a prot paladin and vengeance dh.
Looking at affixes brewmaster and bear both can contribute to afflicted and incorp. Also brew has ring of peace (bear has typhoon) which is amazing on sanguine. I am wondering what prot pala brings for sanguine actually Bear also has a CR. I think it just depends on the group composition you have which tank actually is more usefull.
I agree, and fundamentally which tank is actually available. There may be lots of hand-wringing about optimal tanks for high keys, but the reality for most players is filling the tank slot and cracking on with the run is the most important thing.
Not once has there ever been no prot paladin applying to any keys I’ve put up unless I already have a tank. You can pretty much always pick a prot paladin at the key levels I do. Why would I pick a guardian or brewmaster?
As with the other person, I’m not going to reply to the data part of this conversation again because I don’t think it’s helpful for the overall conversation and just derailing. I can’t keep saying play what you want to or what you enjoy but here is the information the rest of the playerbase is aware of.
Gearing up a main is a large time investment, and a lot of players pick 1 or maybe 2 specs of the role they play at the start of a season, based on power predictions, and then stick with them (unless they end up being really bad).
VDH was clearly OPAF at the start due to the DH rework.
Prot paladin is always a safe bet.
DK is mostly also a safe bet, and their tier set this season looks 11/10.
Prot warrior was maybe a bit on the weaker side last season.
Bear was abandoned because players thought it would suck without their season 2 tier-set, and Bear is generally not very popular (boring to play, doesn’t look cool).
Brewmaster is just not fun to play this expansion.
VDH, prot pala, and DK were the 3 safe picks this season. Because of that, statistically, way more people play them. But that doesn’t mean the other tanks can’t perform well. Right now on RIO, there’s even 1 Bear in the overall top 10 leaderboards!
Bear also has a CR. I think it just depends on the group composition you have which tank actually is more usefull.