I was just sitting and thinking and then I got curious, is there any guilds horde or alliance that's more focused on paganism/animism and nature magic/religion?
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That sort of religion is more of a Horde thing, usually associated with shamanism. If you're looking for it in the Alliance, you'll only find it in the form of Gilnean Harvest Witches, Wildhammer Dwarves and when they eventually arrive, Kul Tiran Thornspeakers.
As for guilds, there's room in most traditional Horde guilds and clan guilds for this sort of shamanism, with lots of clans and tribes focusing on it as a primary aspect of the guild. I'm not too sure about the Alliance though.
As for guilds, there's room in most traditional Horde guilds and clan guilds for this sort of shamanism, with lots of clans and tribes focusing on it as a primary aspect of the guild. I'm not too sure about the Alliance though.
I don´t think there are any on the Alliance, at most you will find individuals who practice the "Old Ways", as the original human faith was called (I have one such character, for example).
Although, what they may see as Old Ways could differ from what you want, because this piece of lore is not really developed (which I like, because it allows me to make up my own traditions and beliefs for the character).
Although, what they may see as Old Ways could differ from what you want, because this piece of lore is not really developed (which I like, because it allows me to make up my own traditions and beliefs for the character).
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I have thought of the idea for alliance multiple time, but it has never got out of me planning it.
Nature worship's a pretty core theme of shamanism and faith for the "old" Horde races of troll, tauren and orc. You'll find guilds like Orcs of the Red Blade who have their own pantheon of gods, or the Zulian Legacy who worship the Loa as presented in the game.
Generally I think you'll find shamans on Hordeside tend to have at least some understanding of animism and nature worship in a broader sense.
Generally I think you'll find shamans on Hordeside tend to have at least some understanding of animism and nature worship in a broader sense.
Thanks for your answers :) thought the concept interesting but don't know if I'll actually do anything with it
One of our druids is a priestess of Goldrinn, actively spreading the belief in him. Some of our members also follow Goldrinn, instead of the Light or Elune.
01/11/2018 16:30Posted by WilcöxOne of our druids is a priestess of Goldrinn, actively spreading the belief in him. Some of our members also follow Goldrinn, instead of the Light or Elune.
That's an interesting idea :o
Otherwise, it seems more like Horde theme yes
For alliance side it is there but it depends what you consider "purer" forms of paganism for example.
Pandaren worship celestials who are akin to ancients, as do night elves with their own ancients. Both if these I'd consider paganism in a sense due to close ties with nature, although some pandaren obviously approach the faith in a more "civilised" manner, but pandaren shaman certainly count within the branch of paganism.
The Titans are closely based upon s hodgepodge of Greek and Norse religion which is technically considered a form of paganism, therefore dwarves that worship them in favour of the Light technically count as well. Particularly as dwarves have a fondness for natural elements like mountains, the molten depths, skies etc.
I'd argue the main decider is how a player portrays it. There is scope on both sides for this kind of faith, horde perhaps have an "easier route" given the mainstream faiths of the "old horde" resemble paganism but there's plenty of material alliance side for a fair portion of them (humans, gilneans, nelf, pandas, dwarves and DI) to engage in paganistic practices. It just might be a bit less rustic than the horde variants.
Pandaren worship celestials who are akin to ancients, as do night elves with their own ancients. Both if these I'd consider paganism in a sense due to close ties with nature, although some pandaren obviously approach the faith in a more "civilised" manner, but pandaren shaman certainly count within the branch of paganism.
The Titans are closely based upon s hodgepodge of Greek and Norse religion which is technically considered a form of paganism, therefore dwarves that worship them in favour of the Light technically count as well. Particularly as dwarves have a fondness for natural elements like mountains, the molten depths, skies etc.
I'd argue the main decider is how a player portrays it. There is scope on both sides for this kind of faith, horde perhaps have an "easier route" given the mainstream faiths of the "old horde" resemble paganism but there's plenty of material alliance side for a fair portion of them (humans, gilneans, nelf, pandas, dwarves and DI) to engage in paganistic practices. It just might be a bit less rustic than the horde variants.
Hello,
The Oaken Grove might offer something of what you seek, we will be a grove of Thornspeakers (Kul Tiran Druids) who will be nature worshiping, and nature magic using individuals. Our members will have "grove" names taken from the trees of the Forest and our connection with the forests of Drustvar will be an important part of our identity. You can read more about the guild on our thread. At the moment we are not active as we wait for Kul Tirans to become available.
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17624612992#post-1
The Oaken Grove might offer something of what you seek, we will be a grove of Thornspeakers (Kul Tiran Druids) who will be nature worshiping, and nature magic using individuals. Our members will have "grove" names taken from the trees of the Forest and our connection with the forests of Drustvar will be an important part of our identity. You can read more about the guild on our thread. At the moment we are not active as we wait for Kul Tirans to become available.
https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17624612992#post-1
I'm Varg Vikernes and I approve of this EUROPEAN thread.
01/11/2018 18:07Posted by HorkimI'm Varg Vikernes and I approve of this EUROPEAN thread.
Let’s find out!
There are still a few Vry'kul players that has seen too much of the Vikings Series, and high on growth potions. Don't even bother.
01/11/2018 18:07Posted by HorkimI'm Varg Vikernes and I approve of this EUROPEAN thread.
Shall we burn down a couple of churches?
02/11/2018 07:58Posted by Lanalath01/11/2018 18:07Posted by HorkimI'm Varg Vikernes and I approve of this EUROPEAN thread.
Shall we burn down a couple of churches?
Like the cathedral?
02/11/2018 06:44Posted by HâroldThere are still a few Vry'kul players that has seen too much of the Vikings Series, and high on growth potions. Don't even bother.
Too much GoT for you?
While there are not exactly guilds about on Alliance as far as I know (save the few mentioned here), I would not say the idea is "more a horde thing", despite perhaps less widespread.
There are plenty of shrines constructed to nature spirits/Wild Gods by night elves, the one of Aessina in Ashenvale(though old and now in ruins) even quite big with the title of temple. This combined with the fact many druid NPCs carrying the title "Hierophant", indicating a role that is somewhat religious in nature, it is not hard to assume there -should- be nature rites or worship, however never further touched upon by Blizzard- and by nelf RPers usually overshadowed by Goddess worship.
Same for Gilnean druids, often speaking of 'the old ways', surely those old ways also involve rites and worship, for those who still follow them.
There are plenty of shrines constructed to nature spirits/Wild Gods by night elves, the one of Aessina in Ashenvale(though old and now in ruins) even quite big with the title of temple. This combined with the fact many druid NPCs carrying the title "Hierophant", indicating a role that is somewhat religious in nature, it is not hard to assume there -should- be nature rites or worship, however never further touched upon by Blizzard- and by nelf RPers usually overshadowed by Goddess worship.
Same for Gilnean druids, often speaking of 'the old ways', surely those old ways also involve rites and worship, for those who still follow them.
Primalsong's belief is centered around the Great Hunter, A personified deity of the Element of the Wilds/spirit at the core, the rest of the Elements as a close second and the Wild Gods/Loa, but with all religious beliefs, however; the interpretation of it varies greatly from one orc to another which can lead to some great confrontations and discussions.
01/11/2018 16:13Posted by RogmashaNature worship's a pretty core theme of shamanism and faith for the "old" Horde races of troll, tauren and orc. You'll find guilds like Orcs of the Red Blade who have their own pantheon of gods, or the Zulian Legacy who worship the Loa as presented in the game.
Generally I think you'll find shamans on Hordeside tend to have at least some understanding of animism and nature worship in a broader sense.
While Paganism is certainly one word for our spiritual activities, we prefer to see ourselves as "Traditionalists". Though Pagans is probably just as apt.
We do indeed have our own pantheon of Wolf spirits, each representing aspects or concepts we as a clan (and Orcs) value, we also venerate our own clan ancestral spirits (including deceased player characters), the elements and the spirit of the wild. This has taken some 13 years to build up in real time, resulting in a vast array of quirks, spirits, rituals, rites and traditions.
We do honor a more broad spectrum of spirits and deity's too though, including some of the wild gods like Lo'gosh, or more localized beings depending on need. We know the importance of trying to keep the local god type happy.
If you're interested in our prime Pantheon, the link provided below should help:
http://orcsoftheredblade.com/forum/index.php?topic=4581.0
I should also state, while we do perform blood rites, usually by way of sacrificing the spoils of our hunts (on animals, we never harm sentient beings for such), we tend to steer well clear of darker acts. We may even slash our own palm, providing blood to the flames. However, generally the likes of dark shamans are heavily frowned upon or treated without outright hostility, and we keep a very tight leash on Warlocks and Death knights.
Paganism is fun yo! makes for great guild specific lore.
02/11/2018 13:39Posted by EluvereWhile there are not exactly guilds about on Alliance as far as I know (save the few mentioned here), I would not say the idea is "more a horde thing", despite perhaps less widespread.
There are plenty of shrines constructed to nature spirits/Wild Gods by night elves, the one of Aessina in Ashenvale(though old and now in ruins) even quite big with the title of temple. This combined with the fact many druid NPCs carrying the title "Hierophant", indicating a role that is somewhat religious in nature, it is not hard to assume there -should- be nature rites or worship, however never further touched upon by Blizzard- and by nelf RPers usually overshadowed by Goddess worship.
Same for Gilnean druids, often speaking of 'the old ways', surely those old ways also involve rites and worship, for those who still follow them.
You make a valid point