https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/elemental-lariat-not-again/1448118/29
have a look here.
Elemental lariat, Simmed for a 593 DPS Increase from a player in YOUR SOURCES>
Your current int is approx 12 - 13.
wear another trinket on neck slot yey?
yes PERMAMANTLY 
u may react as u please, but even ur sources of information state the same evidence i am.
the neck werent worth near as much DPS as u seem to beleive it is, just out of curiousity how much DPS do u think that neck seriously added over a fight length?
i fancy a chuckle.
and no, go view it if u wish, 459 was the real added stat, but u are a clown for sure, so i suspose ur spam emojis atleast sum u up well.
also just a quick tip.
when u try and Make a argument, with 0 justification, evidence or proof, it generally isnt true. u pretend u actually know something regarding this dicussion but u evidently done. because ur own sources Prove you wrong showing how little u’ve actually spent researching.
the fact u seriously beleive the Lariat Adds DPS ALike a Legendary, really states enough. i geninuely dont think u play WoW Retail in the slightest lol.
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Thanks, already ignored you as a forum troll the moment you made your calculations with 12 damage per int. with your DF starting gear with 5 sec proc.
You must be a raider.
Do a Stat weight on urself right now :), i think u’ll find out im correct here.
Raidbots will show u .
I honestly, find it unlikely your mathmatics are more accurate then those paid to create this information.
we can all walk around talking rubbish about things we dont know anything on, i can walk in and lecture a heart surgeon even though i’ve no experience inthe industry.
doesnt stop me appearing to be a clown doing it though.
again;
every source of information, has proven continously. that the neck item was no more then a 3% DPS Increase.
Intellect
11.78
Versatility
5.46
Mastery
5.25
Haste
4.69
Critical Strike
2.73
- If you added 595 Intellect to your character, each point would add an average of 11.78 DPS (this does not guarantee that 1 Intellect = 11.78 DPS)
have a read. it litterally tells u over a Average. it’d be worth 11.78 but isnt garunteed Every 1 Int would add exactly the amount.
Do you have some problems or are you a raider?
I have problems with the fact u do nothing but lie and spread misinformation, on a game u dont play as a CLassic andy.
your Sources say ur lying.
Raidbots says ur lying
WOWhead and Icy veins both say u lie.
Sims Say you lie.
and Personal links to gear sims says u lie.
yet your still ever pressing that elemntal lariat was worth more then 3% DPS.
Damn I’ve never seen someone more pathetic than you on this forum.
I guess your obsession with emote has something to do with childhood trauma.
I sincerely hope that you already blacklisted me
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No, sometimes you need to speak to someone in their own language. This is how you speak with a troll who claims that Lariat deals %3 more damage than any other necklace he found on M+ 13 -14 or a normal/heroic raid boss at the beginning of the season. Must be a troll or one of the WoW’s sick raiding Paul.
You will understand, in time. And yea, you already have been ignored.
At 405, the Lariat would have 536 of your optimal secondary stats (at 421, 605 with 978 stamina), to add that up to 3 times 82 of your best secondary stat, and the proc of 450 or higher of your best secondary stat, if gemmed properly.
That’s a lot of secondary stat and more than either of the two neck drops in Vault of Incarnates. If properly gemmed, you end up with approx 30% uptime of the elemental lariat proc.
During that time, people were simming it with 421 mythic Vault necklaces. And for some specs, they were still below a 405 Lariat. In addition, the other embellishments are absolute trash by comparing Lariats and all recommendations were “players preference”. Even there are people who use well-fed and potion-duration embellishments without any hesitation.
A crafted necklace, better than m raid drops were considered a must-have BiS. Raidbots have a Top Gear section. There you can compare the items you have. It will show you the best gear you have in your hands. And it was that 405 Lariat during that time. After that, you should wear the best gear you have. Have you learned it now? You can’t imagine if you upgrade it to 421, can you? L2P.
But all those realities that you will never understand won’t change the fact that people spent more gold for crafting in DF by comparing SL legendaries and it is still weird they didn’t complain about it.
Yes it’s ridiculous, and it’s not just that I got rolls below 30 on everything, but also that things just didn’t drop at all, literally out of the 5 bosses with Fluids only Magmorax dropped it for my classes… it’s nonsense.
You also forgot to take off the difference between getting another embellishment such as pot extender or bsl.
Lariat was incredibly small in the grand scheme of things. I bought mine for I think 40k week 2 of the 1st tier. Since then I’ve spent maybe 5k average per crafted item.
You spend more making the crests to upgrade the items than the items themselves at this point. It’s nothing compared to SL leggo prices.
Pathetic losers love rhetoric like this
U first went in about 395. So now ur moving the goal post.
Yeah no, and your not taking into consideration several factors im afraid.
It was a 3% dps increase weather you like it or not. Maybe this revealation angered you cause u got scammed
But when the recipie was selling for 1million. The craft wasnt costing 700k im sorry, but if it was anyone with a brain woulda bought the recipie and began doing it because quite litterally 2 usuages would make a profit.
I had a 395 lariat, and from a +13, a vault reward neck of 405 was a upgrade, to upgrade lariat to a 405, you would need to do +16 onwards.
So u cant compare a 405 ilevel lariat. If ur talking about players doing +13s.
yeah lariat didnt work out to be the dps gain it was thought, i always thought it added more til i simmed it against a slightly higher ilevel neck, and yeah, if u werent going to upgrade it to 415 there was very little use in earning one.
Hey,
I am the one who is crafting that kind of thing including the Lariat. Given the information
I am the one who was scamming you if you consider it a scam.
What a
you are.
yes, lol ROFL LMAO. Do you have some kind of problem or something?
Given: 1+1 =3
To find The prove of the above expression
Solution: To prove the above expression, we assume the following:
We consider four numbers and they are 41, 40 on the left-hand side and 61, 60 on the right-hand side.
We consider 41-40 on the left-hand side and 61-60 on the right-hand side.
∴ 41-40 = 61-60
⇒ (16+25)-40 = (36+25)-60 [41 can be written as 16+25 and 61 can be written as 36+25]
⇒ (4)²+(5)²- (2×4×5) = (6)²+(5)²-(2×6×5) [∵4²=16, 5²=25, 6²=36 and 40 is written as (2×4×5) and similarly for 60]
⇒ (4-5)² = (6-5)² [Implementation of (a-b)²=a²+b²-(2×a×b)]
⇒ 4-5 = 6-5 [taking square roots on both sides]
⇒ 4-5+5 = 6 [Rearranging sides]
⇒ 4-0 = 6
⇒ 4 = 6
⇒ 2 = 3 [Dividing both sides by 2]
⇒ 1+1 = 3 [ 2 can be written as (1+1)] (proved)
Hence the expression 1+1 = 3 is proved.
Anyway, I made a good gold by crafting Lariats, mainly for the
raiders.
Someone out there is rich now, while
like you keep wiping on the same bosses over and over and over again. 
Enjoying my Merchant Artisan title since season 1. How much gold did I earn? It is out of your imagination and I repeat my main idea which you toxically derailed: People are spending much more gold for crafting in DF than SL legendaries and no one is complaining about it.
Sure, never craft it and keep waiting, surely one day it will drop. Not even half glass of water for free on a rainy day for the toxic raiders while it is free for PvPers.
If you want 100% loot, you can do M+ farm 17, you get at least 4 items at 447 ilvl, probably quite a few 441s - then you can catalyst items and get a guarenteed tier piece at 441 level.
Gear is easier to gain currently than ever. You can get guarenteed 441 3/4 tier, 4/4 next week. So all that is needed is some effort. You can shorten the time by creating your own raids and bring a full 30/30 normal group, that does not share your tier tokens (it is what I do).
So, yeah - you should be able to easilly gear up your character to 435-440 level in under a week of gameplay.
Gearing has never been easier, some pieces are harder to get to fill out your BiS list. Yet, BiS list is supposed to be endgame and not week 1.
Even if you are done with WoW for now, I wish you the very best and hope to see ya again soon 
If you can accept. This wasnt tbe upgrade it was made out to be, and generally bought by low skilled players who mindlessly follow the advice of raiders.
Why do u continously argue the lariat is worth a larger dps increase then several sims even in ur own sources of information show it to be.
P.s, im a jewellary crafter.
It was also bought by every higher end raider as well, it was unequivocally bis for anyone not using a profession 2piece.
It was just significantly worse than it was during any of the testing and by the time it was nerfed the hype train behind it was already unstoppable.
that is true, alot of high raiders didnt pay those prices for it though, as lot of people did inhouse for this sorta stuff, it was undoubtfully BiS, ofcourse, i just thinki he puts far too much weight on how much it really added.