I would rather do island expeditions than do Torghast ?
Is this statement true or false to you.
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very true, atleast islands were more fun, had tons of rewardsand more variation. And hell i would even say islands were less repetative than torghast. torghast is supposed to be randomized, but you just keep seeing the same places over and over again. The exact same design, the exact same corridors
In torghast you rely way too much on rng and having a class/specc with proper powers. Some classes/speccs are basicly nukes in there while others like hunters only get anima powers for pointless things like traps
islands werent perfect and you got tired of doing them as well after a while. However torghast already became tedious after a few weeks
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True.
But in all honesty I would rather do neither 
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False.
I can solo Torghast, at a pace I find convenient (I can speedrun it if I’m in the mood, or I can explore every nook and corner if I want to feel like a god), and I don’t depend on anybody else. Yes, yes, I could just queue for normal/heroic islands, ignore whatever else the others were doing, but that wasn’t any fun at all.
As far as rewards go, Torghast gives me soul ash, which I can use to craft/upgrade legendaries. Islands gave me AP, which I didn’t care about, as I wasn’t pushing content high enough for AP to matter that much. Cosmetics? I don’t care about those.
In Torghast, I can set personal challenges: run a wing under 10 minutes (not quite there yet, but getting close), run a wing with a spec I never played before, run a wing on a class and spec that I last played in classic. I can try different power builds (root build, convoke build, stealth build; or CDR build or immolation aura build on VDH, among other things).
Islands were… pretty much the same all the time, and you had to suffer through two others fumbling about. I’d rather run Torghast any time of day.
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False.
-I’m working towards legendaries, which is far better than working for Azerite traits that should have been baseline (at least the ones which allowed to make specs functionnal)
-I can solo Tjorgast which I couldn’t with islands.
-Anima powers inside Tjorgast forces me to use every single of my abilities, whereas islands were just BURST BURST BURST, I wanna step on the BURST, TONIGHT, I’LL BE YOUR HERO
-Islands are a BFA feature. That statement alone is enough for me to run away from that.
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True for me too.
Not that islands are better content. They’re not. They’re garbage.
But at least, they’re rewarding. Torghast is once and you’re done type of thing. No point or reason to try it again.
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False. I prefer Torghast. But 6 floors no break is a bit too much some times. And who the fluff decided that 18 at once was ok??
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Me too, atleast island expeditions aren’t costed 1-2 hour and would offer something as a reward at the end.
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False, 100%. I don’t have to spend at least 6 hours daily in Torghast.
True.
Iceland expeditions gives azerite power which you could farm everywhere else.
So actually you could skip them and at some point you had anyway full kit.
Torghast is forced which is not cool.
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False.
Torghast is fun, it’s not everybody’s cup of tea as it’s generally not an MMO.
It feels like a different game within WoW.
Blizzard themselves were too hyped about it and put it as mandatory thinking it’ll be the next m+.
Honestly, it can be the next big thing like M+, it just needs a lot more work as unlike M+ this is an entire new type of content.
Blizzard was just wrong in making it mandatory, as you can see we get people acting like it’s the end of the world when all they have to do is spend 1 hour in there every week.
Islands were better because i could ignore them fully ,torgust i can ignore to some extent only.
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Torghast just isn’t rewarding enough, once you got a legendary or two you probably won’t ever need to come back there again anyway.
True
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False, you couldnt solo Iceland expeditions.
/ During BFA i skiped Iceland expeditions - that’s how horrible it was…
Torghast can be both fun and terrible…but still better!
Fun is subjective. I can get why some would prefer either one, but personally, Torghast is better for me. Islands felt like a much bigger chore that I only slogged through for weekly Azerite gains, and you typically relied on others to get it done for the most part. I much prefer that being a choice so that I can solo if the mood takes me.
Sure, you might get pets, or mounts, or whatever, but the island selection was more limited than Torghast overall with 2-3 islands in a rotation a week and little to do but fart about mass-killing or mining while on a variable timer against scripted jump-happy fake-opponent faction. Rinse repeat until weekly was done and never go back there again.
I know, people can make similar arguments against Torghast, but there’s a bigger potential compared to Islands. I’m just surprised Blizzard haven’t bothered utilizing the ‘scripted faction NPC’s’ that they were seemingly so proud of creating. Looks like next to nothing from Islands has been incorporated in current content whatsoever, whereas the scaling, random(ish) floors and power-system could be improved and utilized for more fun content down the road – preferably in less time-consuming fashion for those who really don’t have the patience.
False for me
I love the idea of torghast, the only thing I hate there is that if your not in combat puppies spawn or stuff, because theres times when you need to take a break for unseens reasons.
Island expos were boring for me, which is why I didnt do much of them, repeat repeat repeat.
In torghast I can atleast have different stuff each time.
True. My only real gripe with Island Expeditions was that you couldn’t solo or duo queue, but they’re over quicker which fits my casual playstyle. They also have many more rewards that appeal to me, transmog and mounts and so on.
Island Expeditions could also be ignored and you could get Azerite in different ways, I think the only reason you’d have to do Island Expeditions is if you wanted Azerite ASAP, but Torghast is essential if you want to get a legendary, which in turn is essential for many forms of content, and for some specs their best legendary memories are dropped from Torghast as well.
Mechanically though I prefer Torghast and would run it much more if runs didn’t take so long/actually allowed me to go AFK when I need to without random mobs spawning.
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Mobs only spawn in one particular layer, though - the assassins that follow you about. The only other problematic one for AFK’ing is the flaming place, unless you grab passive health-regen powers or reach a merchant floor so you can safely sit in the bubble. The rest - except for those open-air dive-bombers in Coldarra, preventing you from safely AFK’ing in some areas - are entirely safe.
In general - and particularly when I was solo’ing Twisting Corridors from bottom-to-top, I would do a few floors then sit in the merchant bubble, grab my drinks or smoke or whatever, then carry on. I know, not exactly helpful for those who get an immediate emergency and want to AFK right there and then, but at the same time, it’s not like you can typically do that in any standard WoW environment other than levelling.
Randomly disappearing during a raid, BG or dungeon is not exactly a welcome thing most of the time, particularly during M+ for obvious reasons, or in any dungeon when you’re a tank or healer (if their presence is required to progress).
The merchant floors are pretty much my only saving grace. Due to home circumstances I pretty much do have to be ready to just abandon my computer sometimes, or at least be doing content that I can finish up/find a safe spot quickly.
I tend to plan Torghast runs, raids and dungeons around days where I know it will happen less or not at all. The rest of the time I just level alts or do various other things that won’t inconvenience others. It’s also one of the reasons I don’t do organized raiding or M+ content, I tend to stick to LFR/LFD. Less hassle for the people involved if I do have to leave as I always queue as DPS and will be instantly replaced, and I hope much more fair to them overall.
You’re right about the assassins though. I guess I could look up what floors have gimmicks like that and just avoid them if I can.
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