People take this game way too seriously…
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Indeed.
Some players really puts their lives into it. It’s kind of scary.
I also think is strange that horde player are allowed to be in this city since what happened with Teldrassil. But attacking other players for that ? That’s too much.
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At least we have fun! Not taking it so seriously is definitely more fun.
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tbh they can with blizzes its writing quality. Its the same with the belfs going horde and being all buddy buddy with them because some lordearon survivor was mean to kealthas ( wich the blood elves disowned after his deeds anyway)
So instead of the alliance the belfs decided to join the horde of wich most races at that time tried to genocide quel thalas. orcs did so in the past, trolls also have bad blood with the belfs and undead succeeded in genociding most of quelthalas.
After such lorelols the horde being welcomed in the new capital of a race they tried to wipe out not long ago isnt that strange
Hardly. They simply want consistency and for conflicts to not be so one sided.
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They killed 80% of the draenei, and they couldn’t kill the remaining 20% because they hid on an island in the Zangar Sea and in the most remote places in the world. They then came to Azeroth and attempted to genocide all the native races. Then with Garrosh the same thing again but without the excuse of demon blood (Rather, they served a supremacist leader who was very reminiscent of a certain austrian man with a mustache), and finally with Sylvanas they didn’t take a moment to carry out her orders.
I don’t know what you expect me to think about orcs. xD
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This always seemed strange to me anyways. Just recently with Nightborne joining the horde. Both, Blood Elves and Nightborne always coming across as if they think of themselves as the gods’ gift to Azerothian kind with Nightborne even talking down to other Night Elves as “lowborn commoners” and glorifying their cultivated upper class lifestyle teaming up with (for their elitist standards) rather primordial cultures is one of the greatest paradoxons in WoW lore. Don’t get me wrong, I find the native like traditionalism of trolls, orcs and tauren super cool. But in the context of allied dynamics neither Blood Elves nor Nightborne fit in there.
Blizzard gave in an interview the real reason why they put that race in the horde (Tbh. the reason was very embarrassing). The other day I shared the link and this made a certain nightborne who posts here very angry, since it destroyed all his ramblings about why said race “fit” into the horde.
Let’s just leave it at that the real reason was that the Asian public wanted a non-creepy race in the horde.
Good to know that i live rent-free in delenis’s head, place is very small of course, but hey
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Well, it’s not the Forsaken who attacked Quel’thalas and genocided the high elves. The Scourge did. The Forsaken were victims in the same ways as the Blood elves were.
And if you add the fact that some Forsakens are high elves undead, like their leader, Sylvanas, who did everything in their power trying to protect Quel’thalas and literally died for it. I don’t think seeing Forsaken and Blood elves joining forces together is that strange.
Really Puny? You of all people acting like you dont take the game too seriously?
Regale us again how you’re forced to do activities you dislike 
If it was -only- the Tauren, it’d at least make a little bit of sense, as they are somewhat on the same page with their druidism, like in Moonglade. But to let all of the horde, including the worst offender, the forsaken, in there so shortly after Teldrassil AND Darkshore?
Not to mention the Orcs who’ve been occupying Ashenvale in the past?
How is Tyrande already so over what happened with Sylvanas & Nathanos that’d she’d let even her “evil” side loyalists who are still within the horde in her new tree?
It’s very ill fitting for especially the Night Elves considering how they always were a rather independent part in the Alliance precisely because of their age, their way of life and beliefs. A people who always liked to stick to themselves, even if allied.
They out of all should know better that after such events, you can’t just go back to being friends again instantly with the enemy faction ESPECIALLY. But hey, scrap all that, make every race the same.
We will all be together, afterall. No matter what, clearly. Together we’ll be all the same : boring.
They were corrupted by demon blood and most of those orcs are dead
eh they didnt need to be corrupted by demon blood to be mass murdering monsters wod taught us that any excuse of oh the demon blood was at a fault is no longer valid and they choose to drink not once but twice if your not frostwolf there a 99.9 % chance your clan uses the demon blood excuse
and Eitrigg is still alive and a handful of others
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Hence why I said most. The wod thing I think is like endgame. Most of the events will always happen. You try to change sir you become the cause of the event. At least that’s what Bruce explains
Orcs were reckless “conquerors” before they drank and they continued to be so after Gul’Dan’s influence lost its grip on them. Frostwolf was the only clan effectively and out of conviction suppressing their bloodlust and berserker tendencies. The others did not. And the reason some refused to drink the offered demon blood was because they were convinced they wouldn’t need any corrupted help to do what they intended to do anyways. It went against their pride as a warrior to seek out such corrupted help in their plan to conquer because it would’ve meant they’re too weak to do it on their own. Nothing to do with being more “humane” towards their victims.
Then you have characters like Garrosh, who never got in touch with demon blood and his followers. Pretty much embodying the traditional orc mentality. The conflict between Garrosh and Thrall only developed because Thrall was raised by humans and adapted their mentality. Garrosh instead was never influenced by human rhethoric and sustained the original thought pattern of orcs: orcish supremacy through conquering.
And he indeed would’ve returned the orcish horde to its original purpose had Thrall been equally orcish in battle. He did not fight Garrosh with honour according to orcish standards. Knowing that Garrosh would probably defeat him, he used magic. So did Gul’Dan and Sylvanas when challenged to Mak’gora, which is a trial by combat in physical strength. It’s not that Thrall wouldn’t know what he did. He used the forces of nature in order to manipulate and go against the very nature of the combat and with it probably changed its outcome. That’s the irony that plagues him ever since and reason why he refused to lead the horde any longer. Because the voice of orcish traditionalism in the back of his head tells him that he doesn’t deserve to live anymore and that he killed the true leader of the horde. In that sense, yeah. Garrosh embodied the uncorrupted and unsuppressed nature of orcs. Which tells you everything you need to know.
The meme-like excuse “the devil made me do it” for horde bad boys (and girls) is convenient but inaccurate if you take a closer look.
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yeah its been added in the expansion where we were ‘neutral’
they say they won’t just abandon it with the next expac but I’ll have to see it to believe it
likely if the truce end they will not go back to dragon isles to change that because it won’t be current content then
I feel like the tree was a rushed attempt to try to give Nelves closure while also having to tell the dragon isles story bit around it which gave the frankenstein that is the new tree lore (its the night elves home but the blessings are for the aspects)
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Yeah, as a Forsaken player, I too think we shouldn’t be welcome in Bel’Ameth.
Or at least, give us some special quests that would justify the access to the city, without necessarily forgetting all the tragedies of the past.
I think Voss is there for that reason, that questline with Shandris.
“Let me support and comfort you while you are in the thrall of your ptsd that we gave you!”
It’s manipulative storywriting.
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Yeah, but it’s clearly not enough.
And I think Calia was a better choice for this. I don’t know why they put Lilian over her everytime someone has to speak for the Forsaken.