It is time

Make it happen. One strong blood elf fighting to be the warchief. Laughing at the human king and calling whoever the current warchief is weak and pathetic (do we even have one?) And spartan kick him while screaming “For the Horde!”

Then the alliance would have their belves as “rebels” and the horde would have “loyalists”

One. just ONE true Badass to make up for all the carebear peace, love and acceptance crap. One to represent the type of player that hates the PvE only crowd that just always wins and never has any challange while sitting on a capital looking pretty. Adventurer in name only since they are never in danger.

Just ONE to make up for little miss im-disabled-but-dont-want-a-prosthetic-for-token-reasons. Not lobotomized Thrall that is on the loading screens but never even shows up, not the lame whiney human king that just cries and is depressed all the time. Your father was a badass warrior! Get a grip!

They could even introduce Worgen Blood Elves via some forbidden magic this Blood Elf leader found and used it during the “Red Wedding” scenario.

Hire me Blizzard! I only drink whiskey. Not milk

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Not by a mile when Sl, BF and WoD exist.

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Too early to conclude, but season 1 m+ was a bust, for sure.

You got me, successful ragebait.

I will wait for them to ban addons before i internalize this opinion.
I think there some positive things coming.

Nah not the worst by along way imo. Definitely not the best but that’s fine

Maybe, I think it’s because of the holidays. You don’t want to force your developers to work overtime fixing things during the holidays…

i agree :100:

TL;DR: It’s not that the expansion is bad, it’s just that we haven’t seen anything worse yet.

It’s interesting how we often criticize expansions at first, only to look back fondly on them later. People complain about Shadowlands, but I found it absolutely dreadful. The Maw was a constant slog, and Torghast was the cherry on top. I think we tend to forget the bad parts pretty quickly.

It’s all very subjective, of course. Pandaria, for example, is still my favorite expansion. I loved farming Timeless Isle, but many others hated it.

The War Within started off pretty well, aside from the terrible early access. The raid design and mechanics were solid, challenging but fair, and didn’t require a huge time commitment. Mythic+ was also decent, though class balance was a mess. I think the team could really use a larger, more dedicated QA team. Broken Fury Warriors, overpowered Arcane Mages, the outlaw rogue bug??? and the constant push for Paladin tanks were just a few examples. The lack of new content and the constant recycling of old stuff eventually drove me away.

I think the issue isn’t necessarily that the expansions are bad, but rather that we tend to judge them against the backdrop of our most recent experiences.

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With something like Warlords of Draenor the development clearly got messed up and the popularity plummeted after its release and Blizzard cut the whole expansion short.

With Shadowlands it felt like the setting, story, and lore was the lackluster part that really dragged the experience down and gave the expansion a very bad reputation.

With The War Within I feel like the issue Blizzard are increasingly struggling with, is boredom.
The experience isn’t very exciting, nothing really stands out, and players quickly seem to get bored. It’s all overly familiar and formulaic and safe. Dragonflight felt like it had a bit of the same issue going for it. There was nothing wrong with it per se, and it’s hard to point out areas where it just failed totally, but it lacked spice and excitement and momentum.
And it feels like The War Within is just continuing where Dragonflight left off.

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Those posts every addon are hilarious

Has everybody forgotten Shadowlands already?!?

I mean if you want list the worst then that has got to be head and shoulders above the others!

Or was it so bad that it is not even to be mentioned ever again?

They already did that a while ago

TWW is DF2.0 as someone above said , with less kindergarten stuff .
The main story is still a bunch of girl bosses political pseudo-inclusiveness hogwash , full of cringy dialog about feelings no one cares about .
Honestly I barely finished it .

I did like the side quests . There was some with fairly warcrafty vibe around . So yea whoever made the side quests you got (thumbs up) and the people making the main story … should reevaluate something to put it mildly . Hopefully the story will change for the next expansion with Metzen around , as this was definitely made by the same people who made DF .

Some good changes like delves and warbands too . It is high time professions to get warband treatment and for half of the knowledge points along with all these rank one , two , three mats to be binned , burned and berried somewhere deep .

Over all id’s say 4 out of 10 for me . Same as DF . Uninspiring , but playable as side thing .

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They are planning to reduce need for addons in future raids so we will see how that plays out and if they bake some more functions in game in general that are now handled with addons and weak auras

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I can tell you exactly how it plays out because we saw it during Amirdrassil already.

They implement a mechanic that requires a weakaura or bonkers weakaura shennanigans unless you have a comp that no guild aside from the top 10 with their 10 (geared) alts for each player could achieve only to then remove said addon limitation further down the road because it was borderline stupid.

Would be nice see diminishing returns finally on game somehow as default, this core mechanic that show us on scale of 1/3 how many cc someone can have before his immune. Its been 20 years and still done by players themselves via addons. Nameplate customizations as default would be nice too :smile:

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Sorry but no, just no.

Wod cata shadowlands beat tww for j
How bad they are by a mile and thats that.

I find ppl that hate on xpacs are usually the sort that have no appreciation for what they have.

How bout you turn off your pc and ban yourself from playing for lets say a month then come back and see how you feel.

Better idea is to logoff retail make a cata toon and play there so it can remind you of bad memories.

These are just suggestions for you to rekindle or make you see that your incorrect.

Literally everything is bad in this expansion so far. The Hero talents are garbage, some of them bugged since the start, and huge amount of inconsistency. The class balance is not existing, huge gaps and no tunning at all. The professions are still garbage and we just cant rid of this nonsense system what DF bringed to the table. The engineer profession is a joke, there are literraly useless stuffs in there and if there weren’t the npc orders, it can be so much worse. The mythic+ system is also boring and out dated one, and tbh putting a timer on a content which you do in 3 stages already is not a content in a first place. The raid was medicore, I just cant get the idea that since Dracthyrs are in the game, everything has to get a shield phase…
So yeah, its a garbage xpansion so far, but league is huge to tell which one is the worst.

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Although I have my concerns about the current direction of the game I would not consider the current expansion to be the ‘worst’.