It Was All Just A Dream

[Tekra-thrall]

@anon2221041

Murdering all the draenei on draenor back then or using necromancy and dark magics upon arrival to azeroth? Nu-horde begone.

Seems like you’re stuck in Warcraft 1+2

@anon2221041

We’re evil, we will be evil and were evil. No peacemongering allowed, and i dont care what your puppet cattle prince mooed in your ears.

I don’t need a virtual Cow to tell me what’s right and wrong, and propably to your surprise, i’m not a big fan of Baine.
I would have preffered one who smashed Sylvanas with a Wartotem, instead of going behind her back…
When i signed up for the Horde 15 years ago, it was not like that. It was certainly not a moral beacon, but they tried to do better under Thralls leadership.

@anon2221041

P.S. also no surprise you are orc female lol. Folks with certain worldviews who speak in terms “problematic”, “toxic” etc etc are picking that race/sex combo all the time. Wonder if there is a connection.

Just my currend Main, I like their animations in melee.

[Connie-medivh]

I’m legit wondering how one can retain that, of all things, from their Horde experience. Surely we’re not playing the same game

[Tekra-thrall]

@Connie-medivh

I’m legit wondering how one can retain that, of all things, from their Horde experience. Surely we’re not playing the same game

what specifically?

[Connie-medivh]

Thinking that the Horde is about “manabombing cities and using biological weapons”

[Tekra-thrall]

Ah, so it was to the poster before me, not for me. I was confused because you answered to my post.

[Connie-medivh]

Woops sorry. Yea I was referring to the message you quoted in your post. I’m not used to forums anymore ahhhh

[Jeeku-argent-dawn]

wonder what supposed worldview i have for posting on a default troll with a palm tree for a hairstyle…

[Waygos-kazzak (Waygos)]

@Namr-chamber-of-aspects

Now I know what you’re going to say. This is the cheapest, most base form of retcons or explanations there is. But honestly, is there any other way to save this franchise at this point? In my opinion BfA severely damaged it. Shadowlands killed it. Nothing short of a retcon of titanic proportions will be able to fix this mess.

The only thing they can do is pretend that everything after Legion (Or maybe even after fighting Elisande) was a dream that was caused by either Elisande’s temporal magic or even the Pillars of Creation being corrupted by the old gods and warping our sense of reality.

What do you guys think? Is there another way to fix this (in my opinion) utterly destroyed story, or did it come to the point that this would be the only option left?

How can you explain allied races?

[Tekra-thrall]

depends on the allied races, some are the unconcious mind influencing your dream, but moose-Tauren and Fox-people are only explainable if you take into account copious amounts of drugs before going to sleep…

If you mean after the “reroll” i think a free-forced-racechange would be the best solution for that case.

[anon2221041]

@Tekra-thrall

Seems like you’re stuck in Warcraft 1+2

Seems like i am stuck with decent lore, indeed.

@Tekra-thrall

I don’t need a virtual Cow to tell me what’s right and wrong, and propably to your surprise, i’m not a big fan of Baine.
I would have preffered one who smashed Sylvanas with a Wartotem, instead of going behind her back…
When i signed up for the Horde 15 years ago, it was not like that. It was certainly not a moral beacon, but they tried to do better under Thralls leadership.

To my big surprise. Thrall was a peacemonger as well. Garrosh did nothing wrong by the way.

@Tekra-thrall

Just my currend Main, I like their animations in melee.

Coincidence? Hardly. By bet is on your another one being a femtroll.

[Weffi-kilrogg]

it would be so easy to change everything if they so wanted to, the possible places to change it would be wod, legion or bfa.

whit wod, it could quite easily be changed so, that when we killed Archimonde, and came back to Azeroth, we never came back to the right timeline, but a different one, where the timeline was changed.
in Legion as said in here, Elisande changing the time to the extent we again ended up in some sort of odd timeline that doesnt make sence.

Bfa again, whit N´zoth where we literaly lost, but we do not realice it, we actualy got mindcontrolled, this meens hole shadowlands is actulay a dream made buy N´zoth where we think we are there even if we are not.

[Chronorabbit-outland]

@Jeeku-argent-dawn

wonder what supposed worldview i have

Be careful with da voodoo.

@Connie-medivh

Thinking that the Horde is about “manabombing cities and using biological weapons”

Well, if I really try hard, if the story would reflect the concept of the horde as “underdog”, maybe then it would be possible to justify secretly developing some unconventional defense™ tools. Just in case ™

@Waygos-kazzak

How can you explain allied races?

I remember doing the intro Maw quest line, and in the cave (Forlorn Respite iirc) there is a vulpera DK. But when I clicked on one, I heard the orc voice saying “my suffer continues”. I hope that bug was not fixed.

And, as mentioned a bit before, if one is not careful with “da voodoo”, it could lead to some nasty results. (could elves be considered a result of “bonding too closely with local flora” for “voodoo” purposes, I wonder )

@anon2221041

Garrosh did nothing wrong by the way.

Nixxion would approve.

The True Story of Garrosh Hellscream!

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[Zuljamba-tarren-mill]

I’m all for the waking up from a dream thing. It’s gotten that desperate.

But to stop it happening again, they need to learn to write properly as well. By that I mean, stop writing themselves into a corner and making each new threat world ending, universe ending ridiculous levels of power. This isn’t DBZ or the DC universe.

Actually just get Danuser and Golden out and hire new replacements. They should be working at Walmart.