I would agree with that. But again this is not what I ask. If blue item was the max reward of warfronts, wq, and world bosses, and in a period of 2 months I could get every equipment slot filled with one of those blue items I would be very glad. The problem is that we do the same stuff all over again and in the end we come up with no upgrade but with the same stuff we have.
And yes participation does not equal success but we do not just participate in sth we are supporting it as it is subscription based. So it should be more rewarding and fun. Give us more frequent content upgrade and better gear would not be the main goal of this game.
since youâre a self confessed casual, you donât really need gear ASAP.
just enjoy the game with what you get.
(me example farming trans/mount/gold)
I do not enjoy farming gold, mounts, pets. I enjoy the story. But the rate in which the content is upgraded is too slow and we have to do the same things all over again.
what counts as new /fun content for you? getting new gear that is titanforged and with sockets from 1-2 kills?
No, storyline, quests, dungeons, raids (for RF for me) is new content. While waiting for this getting the max gear I can get from the content I do (no raid, no pvp, no mythic+) is my goal.
And what would you do once you got that gear? Would that be it until the next lot of ânewâ things comes out? Because, if youâre just wanting to not get duplicates, youâll be hitting that mark a lot faster than you are now.
Also, for the content you do, youâre WAY over the ilvl for it. You should be sitting at 320-340, not on 369 ilvl. If you donât raid, do PvP or donât touch Mythic+, then youâve hit your âcapâ and then exceeded it. So, coming on here and complaining about gear isnât really the âcleverâ thing to do now, is it?
i havent done the bfa story line yet so i dont know what it feels like at the end of the line
Look at older replies it is not the ilevel I talk about. And when I get that gear I would gear another alt. Somebody else would farm transmog, mounts, pets etc.
And Retributor the bfa storyline is really nice. I just feel that it progresses really slow though.
MorteusâŚAgain you are missing the point.
The slow progress is by design. Itâs actually intended to be slow.
Whether I agree with it or not is not in question, Blizzard are trying to slow players down from progressing to fast and gearing to fast.
Your trying to fight against the very system that Blizzard are relying on to keep player activity higher.
So while you fight for thisâŚBlizzard will be doing everything they can to slow it down instead, increased GCD, personal Loot, stalling the azerite catch up mechanic, more mats than ever before required for crafting potions flasks other gear like ring enchants are insane mat requirements.
The list is endless with things Blizzard have done to slow the players down.
So yes when I said it was selfish of you to ask for this change I meant it in the sense of take a look at the bigger picture.
Even with the slow down itâs a very very rapid process to gear up.
My alt mage, 2 days after hitting 120 was 360+ ilvl, 4 days later I was raiding normal Uldir, the following week I was raiding Heroic Uldir sadly only 7/8 hc and doing mythic + 6 through 10.
that alt is now 374 ilvl equipped and itâs an alt.
That in my opinion was way to fast.
Sure helped I knew where to go what to do from my time on my main here, but the speed of that process is nothing short of insane.
Relatively speaking, my gearing process on my paladin was much longer.
Due to gating of content, Raids and Mythic dungeons werenât available so only hc dungeons could be done at the time, I was rocking 305 ilvl before Uldir opened, then Mythic dungeons came along and I went from 305 to 350 in about 4 hours.
But again you are fighting against a system of time gating That Blizzard themselves want to keep.
so on that note good luck.
Ok once again it is not about ilevel. Lets say for example that the max ilevel I can aquire from the content I do is 340 or 330 or 310 or 300. As long as can do this content and get all my item slots filled with this ilevel in a period of 2 months cause I always get my worst slot upgraded after I spent time doing the content I do I would be glad with it. So after I get maxed with that ilevel then I would have the choice to gear or level another alt or if I have the time engage in more difficult content to get better ilevel. The thing I say is that everyone should have the a higher chance to get gear for his lowest ilevel slot when he does the content that he enjoys doing. Nothing more nothing less. It is not about gearing up in terms of maximizing my ilevel but in the sence that as long as there is no new content from dungeons, raid, questline, etc the only goal many people have in the game is to be able to get the highest ilevel gear from the content they are able to do in all of their equipment slots. By repetition of the same wq, warfronts and world bosses I think a 2 month period to obtain this is logical. When a player spends time doing sth again and again he must win sth from it and the end he must get a sense of completion from his content. After that he could either do harder content or enjoy playing another character. An endless loop of wq, warfronts, and world bosses with the same item again and again is pointless I think. But then again that is my opinion. So the only thing I see me doing is return to the game every 6 months that the new content is out to experience it for 1 month and then leave again.
the reference to Ilevel is relevant whether you choose to admit it or not.
As I stated in a previous post that if itâs not just go and buy something from the AH, but given thatâs not a choice you want to pursue I can only assume that Item Level is more important than you are admitting.
Now explain what you think the repercussions of your strategy are because I can promise that you have not in the least considered what they would be to the overall game.
That could be solved by going back to badge/emblem/points system.
BUT BLIZZARD DOESNâT WANT PLAYERS TO GRIND SOME POINTS CUZ ITâS UNHEALTHY SYSTEM!
[Azerite Power]: * awkward smile *
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Once again I have to reply. If pet battles, transmogs and farming mounts is not sth that a player like me enjoys what is left for me to do when I have experienced the new content( raids, dungeons, storyline) ? Yes it is gearing. Now by saying gearing I DO NOT MEAN in terms of best in slot gear. I would not even dream of getting the same gear as a player that does harder content than me. It would be unfair for him and boring for me as it would not push me if I decided to get into harder content. But if the item level from my content is of value x ( you can put a price that you fell is fair in x)I want to be able to get this value x in all my slots in a normal period. If I get the same thing again and again by doing this content it simply does not feel rewarding. You are a raider so probably ilevel is important to you. That does not mean I feel that way too. I do not want your ilevel. I want to get the ilevel items that my content gives simply by doing my content so I can feel that I am done with char until new content comes out or until I decide to get to harder content. And then move to another character.
As for the repercussions of my strategy let me give an example. Lets say I can do per week 1 warfront quest(gives item), 1 world boss(gives item if you get loot), and 7 wq. In the 7 wq there is currency, resources, azurite power and items. Lets say Blizzard gives 2 wq per week max for items. Now what I ask is from this 4 items that someone can loot per week he should be able to get 2 of his slots upgraded. In total of 14 or 15(dual wield) item slots that should take 7-8 weeks if you do this content every week to get max ilevel content items in every slot.
Now lets say you do raids or mythic + or even both. If you manage to get 2 items per week for raids and 2 for mythic+ it would take you 7-8 weeks too for best in slot gear or 4 weeks if you do both. You will end with best in slot gear and I would end with a decent gear for my content. We would both feel that our time spent was well rewarded and we could then go and farm mounts, pets, transmogs or level and gear alts. What is wrong with that strategy. If Blizzard thinks that the players would not have sth to do after gearing then the game has a fault.
Once again Iâll ask, what are the repercussions of your strategy?
You say what you want but you donât seem to get what the fall out of said change would be.
So do us all a favor and explain in as much detail as you can what that would do to the game.
I explained above. Sorry I was writing while you posted this.
That is not what you asked, You asked to have a system where by protection is gained against getting repeated items in slots where you currently have a high item level piece of gear.
Now put some real thought into the repercussions, And stop thinking of yourself, think of 3.6 million characters in the EU between 111-120 and the impact it would have on those players and their guilds and there motivation to play.
No change in any game system is without fault, so what is the fault in your strategy that you keep missing and is staring you in the face in every single post?
No need to apologies 
As I said before I feel the ilevel that my content gives is too high. This is sth that Blizzard has to fix. I think we all agree in that. That is why I asked you to put a value in price x of the ilevel you think my content should give. I currently have high piece of gear cause my content gives those. If my content was giving lower gear then I would be ok with that and try to get that ilevel for all my slots as I do now. I ask this then. I repeat the same content again and again, as all of us do in our cntent. We should be able to get 2 items per week from this content to replace our lower ilevel gear so we can max our gear with the ilevel our content gives. That is all. And I dot think I think of myself. Can you please tell me how this system would negatively affect you if you gained at least 2 upgrades per week from the content you repeatedly do ?
You look at it the wrong way IN MY OPINION. This is an RPG. In every RPG in the history ofâŚever⌠gear has served as a character progression at max level.
Also, no one is saying that people should not get rewarded AT ALL. But the reward should be proportionate to the effort you put into getting said reward.
If you put 2 hours per week, you really should not be flooded in Heroic level gear. Itâs just wrong. Heroic level raider puts more time than this to get to that gear. A lot more time.
The difference is even bigger with the Mythic raiders. I put tons of hours into this game, I do whatever I need to get my 38 lvl Necklace because thatâs what I am required to get for progression. Method is going to the extreme with this and they are farming 43 ilvls.
Blizzard themselves make us, Mythic raiders farm 10 times as much as a Heroic Raider (seen in the necklace level requirements - for Heroic raider to fully unlock a piece in the new raid, they need 42 or 43. I need 48 for the same thing. Why? ).
Some would say âoh, but next week there will be less AP required, and then next week even lessâ but no. I still have to wait 2 more weeks to get the same level you can get in 2 days.
For farming 10 times as much as a Heroic raiders or below, I would expect a reward that is at least 2 times more powerful than what a Heroic raider would have.
This is proportionate. More time, better rewards.
As it is now, the only form of progression a mythic raider has is just numbers on a third party website.
I agree with you I should not have heroic gear but this is not what I am saying. Yes rewards for my content should be lower. But the thing I say is that I should be able to complete the gearing of my content in a period of 2 months. I play 2 hours per day not per week. I have heroic gear cause blizzard decided to give this as reward for my content ( this is a mistake but it is not what I say ).
But even if you find my ilevel high for my content I would tell you one simple thing. An average player with much worst ilevel than me would kill me in less than 30 seconds in a duel cause he is much more skillful than I am. So if you are a good player then ilevel should not be such a big issue.
The thing I say is not that I want high ilevel. It is that I want to be able to get gear for every slot in my equipment with the ilevel that my content gives in a normal period so I feel that I completed my content (as I would have nothing else to do as I do not like pet battles, mount farming and transmogs) and do sth else( either engage harder content or gear-level other alts). Just as everyone I think does want this. So everyone is spending time doing his content. If a raider spends an average amount of 2 hours per day to get equipment why shouldnât I get equipment for my slots if I spend the same time. NOT the same equipment but the equipment my content does give. We both spend the same time. You do sth harder get better reward I am fine with that. But DO get that reward for your time spent as I want to GET my reward for my time spent. If I or you or everyone does not get sth from his time spent in the game for repeating the same content then what is the fun in playing the game?
I speak for doing the same content everyday every week for 6 months till next patch comes out. Now as for what ilevel each content should give that is another topic that if someone brings up I would gladly give my opinion in that and it probably would be close if not the same as yours.