I’m sure we’ll be overbearing it all in a few days anyway.
I think you mean someone who actually plays WoW, and not just treats it as theatre school.
For somebody pretending to have a clue you’re surprisingly clueless.
If its overtuned it will get tuned. It’s really as simple as that.
And yea, you’re dooming hardcore.
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So your data is based on doing 20-22 keys in gear a season behind? Infact lower than what we have on the live realms?
Have things changed much since I tested them on the PTR? Didn’t seem that bad when I tried it.
yeah but the keystones are not actually 20-22s , idk what the scaling is some higher ranking players are doing 26-27s but , i just did a 24 couple of minutes ago and it was bad like bad bad one shot level . so idk what the scaling is but if this is not the real scaling and it will be harder meaning this 22 is like 15 once it goes live its even worse …
but regardless its still stupid like stupiddddddd stupid overtuned … not just dmg im talking overall kick requirements and stops and the way mobs behave
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Wtf are you talking about? You did +20-22s in outdated gear, but they are not really +20-22s. I’m sorry dude but this is really incoherent.
You did play on PTR so you know 
weird opinion but ok
the scaling is not confirmed , not by any source anyway . no one knows if these are real 20-22s or scaled down . we could be doing 15s for all iknow or 10s no one knows what the real sccaling is
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good in fact they should 1 shot from lvl 5. so that people can use CC like BANISH, TRAP, SAP, BLIND, SUBJUGATE DEMON, EXCORCISM ETC
So what exactly is the point of this post exactly? I mean if they are scaled to 440 gear it’s obviously not going to be hitting live, and if they aren’t they are fine.
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I doubt the lower ones are scaled to 440, but the high keys again are probably scaled for way higher gear than 440 anyways.
they’r not , everything is 440 regardless of the dungeon level your 440 item level once your inside that instance .
but that dosnt matter , the problem is we dont know how the key scaling works . and even if we did it still dosnt mean that going live like that with each pack having 5 infinite casters will look good for the game .
time will tell
My personal belief is that this is beyond garbage and the m+ scene will tank so hard like never before . cause i think having this many caster mobs in every single dungeon is just a recipe for disaster
s2 was so easy everyone were done with m+ after month…
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Except you it seems.
? I don’t play wow that much and managed to get all +20 in like half of season without even trying
First day of season +15 were doable with gear of season 1
s2 is ghosttown for a reason
Oh not to forget the +16-17 you see last time I done I was helping my friends so
keep your butthurt
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best you can do is start 2 months later after they fixed the game ;). no joke it was the same with karazhan. and other dungeons.
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15s in next season will drop like 475 itlv.
no wonder you would get one shot in 440 gear 
test those +20s in 480 itlv because thats the itlv most people will be doing them in
ye they were but everything hurt a lot. i was doing +14 and 1 untimed 15 FH in 415 itlv but thats was very very harsh experience for tank
in general people dont do those keys before they gear up a bit more in lower keys
especialy now it will be impossible for most due to how blizzard moved the gear bracket .
i have a feeling that first week will be very rude awakening for a lot of 440+ people
So… not a month then like you originally said?
I’ve got all the dungeon teleports on the PTR, mostly from going into the dungeons on +20 tyr+fort with a random group of people and not much idea what we were doing. And I’ve spent about 3 days on the PTR, not 3 weeks. Aside from a couple of nasty bosses, it seems mostly OK to me.