Judge my new "Warlock Skill Suggestions" am not trolling

Mana Funnel - (Doesn’t Cost MP) cost-soul shard and your health - last 12 seconds and giving someone else mana. mount of mana you give is way higher then the health (this changes Mana drain to Mana funnel making it more pve friendly not hurting it in pvp)

Master of Darkness - this does 4 things

Voldwalker - Becomes a Voldlord - 15% more health 100% more threat and gains 6% chance not being crited.

Torment - now does little bit of shadow damage every time it is used making vold walker deal little more damage every time it torments.
Consume Shadows - can be used in combat but at -50% effectiveness while channelling
Suffering - Does Large amounts of shadow damage as well as taunting
Sacrifice - bit weaker then normal voldwalker it reduces the [voldwalkers]
hp by 25% puts a barrier on you this doesn’t kill the voldlord. like it does [voldwalker]

Voldwalker can give you 1800+ shield but you sacrifice it at 50

Voldlord gives you 900 shield but. loses by damages it self for 25% of its health its weaker cause you can use it more (math is off but you get it)

this somewhat of sarciface nerf for more power in other apartiments for baliancing reasons

Voldwalker isn’t meant to be pvp specific pet so just trying buff its pve functions without breaking it in pvp

Amplify - lowers its effectiveness from 50% to 25% but you can use it on all warlock abilities.
if you want a demon armor that is 25% more armor here you go. if want summon a demon with 25% more hp here you go

It has different effects depending what spells-
Damage over time effects , drain spells - 25% more effectiness and damage
Destruction spells or non-peroidic direct damage spells with casttimes - have there cast times reduced by 25% (aka soulfire) on single cast

Destruction Spells that are instant cast - have 25% crit chance - shadowburn on single cast

Pets - 25% more HP, and Auto attack damage (exp for imp) on single cast
Imp - 25% more MP on single cast

Stones - 25% more effective health, spell and fire stones. soul stones on single cast

Amplifying - Howl of Terror or Fear - Makes them instant cast (this kinda does effect pvp but ampilfy does have a cooldown)

its really not as powerful as it sounds every caster has pre- ability expect of warlock. mages have 2 caster pre-abilities.

3rd Drain soul now works with master channeller and can be casted at same time as life drain

  1. Agony and weakness can be used along side of other curses

Agony is 50% stronger and tics more often this makes affliction warlocks somewhat ok

Weakness - now can be applied in metamorphis when when they cast shadow cleave

this is mostly to make weakness, agony and drain soul more functional. not to break the game

in directly this make shadow cleave deal more damage cause somewhat reduce damage attach to it. so not needing buff it damage much

over all am not trolling. do want warlock be fun for all types of players so these just mild suggestions

now please understand dont want my class be stronger then anyone else. dont want my class feel under-powered . I am gonna be honest here in pve it feels extremely underpowered most importantly boring and un fun.

But you have one button rotation that can top meters isnt fair argument to be had. having only 1 spec that barely viable isn’t good

Look at logs look at all top dps players. and you see warlock is either 4th or 5th bottom of list. not asking be at top. asking to if put enough effort into something affliction can do decent damage

but affliction spec doesn’t do that doesn’t matter if get all world buffs. got all potions soon be flasks. you at best be 3rd lowest dps in whole raid always and have your raid leader tell you suck you should reroll destruction really dont like playing

thats not ok blizzard. cant use weakness or agony cause raid leader dont like that recklessness all the time. that cuts damage off by 100% cause out of all your dots. agony has highiest damage

When this happens it’s time to find a new guild mate

there is no guide bro. its same with every warlock who plays affliction why do think we have professional warlock players complaining

spell power on gear is bad
spell power has no real scaling
not really staying on subject

those guilds even say destruction is better

I want to ask another thing. One of the SOD’s main goals used to be adding an additional tank spec to several classes which should’ve solved the issue with lack of tanks. Correct me if i’m wrong but people still prefer to avoid playing a tank. What gone wrong ?

Destruction will always be better because of Ruin / Bane. But better =/=good. The best warlock in the world will still do 1/3 of the damage of the best warrior.

So until Blizz actually start working on balance, there is little point to speak about good destruction or good affli. Both are bad. Just one a lot more than the other…

Good suggestions OP. I wish devs did not drop the ball for SoD in p2 and had more people like you.

Ill explain how tanking warlock went completely wrong in 5 ways

  1. warlocks only source of milgation is armor and resistances. warlocks hp pool is very low even when talented in demonology so trying tank with 2500-3000 hp or when buffed about 3.5k is differently

  2. having the threat but no defensive cooldowns. as tank you need defensive cooldowns of some sort. sorry but ones they gave us doesn’t cut it

  3. shadow cleave is awful to use feels terrible. does extremely low damage. has 6 second cooldown attached to it. it cant hold threat when things are immune to your fire spells

  4. you take alot of damage I mean alot of damage when tank. to hold threat sometimes have hellfire. sometimes have to life tap while you are fighting mobs and this makes your healers lose there minds. its not fun to heal a warlock

  5. like i said threat holding not issue issue is dealing with amount of damage you take until you run into fire immunities watch blizzard didnt wont do nothing about

Your not tanking in phase 1 of phase 4 your searing pain is your major source of threat you cant hold threat in 20-40 man raid with corruption life drain and shadow cleave alone not working

dont even get me started on amount of fire resistance all tier 1 set peice

fire pvp is gonna die in phase 4

you wanna know worst thing by nerfing soul link they destroyed tanking as warlock cause was too strong for pvp

you complete destroyed tanking warlock tank you pvp players for destroying my class

way blizzard nerfs things they complete destroy it dont make little changes they complete destroy it

its like normal classic where paladins dont have taunt there for they can never truely tank in raids becauses

where warlock does have the taunt does have threat gen but doesnt have any defensives hence bad tank

Always? No. Only as long as raid leaders allow you to use incinerate leg rune instead of demonic pact.

Isn’t shadow destro BiS now? I haven’t played much p3, but considering aoe is warlock only strenght i would assume shadow volley / nightfall / ruin was the way to go.

Guess its still fire then?

same thing always been when comes to raiding. spamming one button. only difference in sod and compared to . but if you love dots and like putting damage effects on things raids. you really do nothing honest lowiest of the low dps

still even as affliction warlock spam shadowbolts. that issue. spamming shadow bolts shouldnt be only opinion warlock has its been doing this for years this classic + server this classic with changes

still same warlock always been you might like that not moving character slamming one finger constantly on single button for rest of your warlock life i dont

not only is destruction boring it really sucks to play. have really awful in pvp wsg or arathi basin cause get 2 more ppl on you its over with cast-time aglore 6 sec cast time on soul fire that doesnt do any damage

if have sit there for 6 second in casting animation that ssh better kill or have extremely high crit chance

most classes have full rotation. destruction warlocks just cast shadowbolt. i perfer have rotation over this down syndrome rotation

if this all it takes be 4th last person on dps meters everytime you raid. cause everyone else scales better then your shadow bolt casts

they always baliance stuff around pvp. but in doing so they destroy any hopes of it being good pve. thats ok you just press shadowbolt isn’t really good defense here

did soul link needed be nerfed that bad. I dont think so. by doing so it was destroyed in pve. warlock tanks are squishie as hell now cause of that. but ok if their tanking sucks as long as it doesnt effect pvp

breka it down to ya

its destruction - only cast shadow bolt cause everything else sucks
its affliction - is gonna put dots on stuff . then spam shadowbolt until need put dots on it again
and affliction pushes more buttons then destruction yet they do more damage
Demonology - I demonic Sarciface my fel guard then i shadowbolt after i chaos bolt

who casts immolate in molten core -immune immune immune who casts searing pain molten core immune immune immune

other classes have other opinions. sure it doesnt preform as good as other bis spec. but it does decent enough damage. tanking be viable in raiding

Warlock dot spec is one of those specs that are not even viable for raiding cause its that bad. whatever reason it cannot even! its lowiest of the low. same can be said for pvp affliction is bad. dont even come close to soul link. damage is bad can be dispelled . shadow priest out damage you. better hope for them nightfal procs cause only thing thats good

coe is garbage

This will not be the case in SoD

Like gnomer mechanical bosses got removed their immunity to bleeds, poisons and life leech effects, they will 99% likely remove all fire immune and resistances from molten core.

ST First boss rankings (the “dps testing boss”) i looked at top 100 warlocks and nearly all of them are incinerators. Rank 76 is the first shadow bolt user I found. “Niklock”. And by the way he is using full affli rotation and not SB spam, sb spam is weak and a meme rotation.
Even 2 Tanks are ranked over niklock.
So affliction spec is weaker than metamorph tank spec.

Best incinerator: 2211 dps
Best meta tank: 1504 dps
Best affli: 1501 dps.
Best shadow bolt Spammer: would take too long to find one. Probably 1300 is possible i guess.

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that not true fire elementals in brd still have immunites have you ever done baron. have ever tried kill elementals out in world

My guild loves that Im playing affli

And they better do or no more pact for u guys

Not true YET*

They will change this in p4 for raids bosses.
Like i said the gnomeregan mechanical bosses got their immunities removed. Some trash mobs did not. And also the shredders in incursions were immune to drain life.
They forget to change “unimportant” enemies.
Bosses will 99% sure receive a treatment to make them vulnerable to every possible player damage source.

I would love to test shadow bolt spam meme spec… but unfortunately blizzard “forgot” to give us some dps test dummies :man_shrugging:

For lvl 50 it is 0/20/21 using imp active, and for 60 it is 0/30/21 using fel guard active i guess?

Why did you expect affliction to be good for single target dpa in raids though. Sure I understand but that’d be hard to change. Got to get insane drain soul dmg then or smth

Its more to it then just that.

Maybe but in pvp affliction is very strong against many classes. If the damage was increased by 50 percent on dots I think it would get way overpowered in many matchups. PvE pvp balance they started with in retail I don’t expect them to handle the imbalance here unfortunately. But I find it worse in pvp because you have no chance and just die but in PvE you’re just not the best on a damage meter

thats major issue here but pvp but pvp. let me remind you that pvp isn’t only aspect of wow. dont see how warlock affliction is powerful in pvp

most of your stuff can be out healed and dispelled. need other ppl kill ppl in wsg druids are a pain to kill with just dots alot dont know where you get that it make warlocks overpowered. cause it dont

shall we talk about blackout priest talent being busted and priest dots doing way more damage then warlocks dots

I pvp all the time do wsg. arenas ab what not talkin about pvp server 1v1 pvp should never be taken into account when baliancing.

Yes but they also struggle to kill a warlock