Just daily feedback that feral sucks in pvp so bad8

Haha xD I don’t hide behind an alt. I literally played my Orc for 2 expansions. So I stay on it so people who knew me can still recognize me.

You call me dumb yet you don’t even understand that comparison between Feral and Sub doesn’t make sense. It’s a bit ironical for you to call anyone dumb.

Also believe me Feral isn’t the reason you’re 1600 at it.

You might wanna go back to first grade or whatever class reading lessons began at, cause you seem to have a big problem with reading and actually understanding what you read. Nobody made a comparison here between Feral and Sub and say they should be the same. A sub rogue came in here and said “FERAL DOES MORE DMG THAN SUB! FERAL BETTER AND MORE OP!” and we tried to explain like 20x that the DMG profile of Feral and Sub is different. Sub is burst / oneshot, Feral is AoE sustain, but it seems that he didn’t understand a word of what we said cause he just said it again and again and again.

If you are having trouble with following the conversation maybe don’t take part in it?

PS - “Also believe me Feral isn’t the reason you’re 1600 at it.” - another “LoOk MOm IM a GlADIatoR”! I don’t play feral so I don’t have rating. I’m having a lot more fun playing evoker, hunter and mage this season. Just sad that my feral feels clunky compared to my other classes.

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The only way I can respond to it is ex dee

Please don’t plunge yourself with your lack of the game understanding

Even bigger eks dee. So if you don’t play then shut up and stop making yourself even more miserable.

Read more, write less, will help you keep up with us kid.

“Even bigger eks dee. So if you don’t play then shut up and stop making yourself even more miserable.”
I only stated I don’t play actively feral because it’s clunky like 10 times in this thread. Seems oyu really do have problems with reading and keeping up. Thank you for confirming. I know now to not waste more time on you.

That’s exactly what you and that other clown Feral has to do. Read more guides post less.

I don’t care what you stated because so far everything was wrong.

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you all go ape poop over nothing tbf.
You all need to hit the spa.

I wouldn’t mind some SPA. It’s a bit hot here.

Shower better than spa for hot dayz

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I actually feel its abit funny that this entire topic has been more around buffing feral than entirely fixing it.
Buff the ways they use cyclone by, what did you say? make it instant but 20 sec cd? I can already see the topics about it.
Buff Regrowth and remove modifiers so they dont have to rely on it for bigger heals.
Buff defensives because “it makes no sense plate users have more armor compared to bear form” or “everyone has immunities but us” etc.
Buff mobility.
Give feral a restealth.

There hasnt been one single part where you have said anything about what you are willing to give up for all the buffs and removed part of the clunkiness you feel.
Remember that with all the changes/buffs youve been asking for, your spec highly likely would jump from A tier to S or even higher tier.

:person_shrugging: I never rly cared, I just dont like when people drag communities down because of minority people whining. But its sadly the minority that got the highest voice when it comes down to it xd

More like S+++

That’s exactly what’s wrong with this sweaty community. A tier is considered bad…

Literally nothing this guy said since the begining is about gameplay improvement but everything is a buff. Not to mention that dumb armor argument lol xD

Feral is fine. Re-vert the Regrowth nerfs and Frenzied Regeneration nerfs and we catJAMing.

:cat:

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Fine as in it’s not doing bad in PvP, but it is clunky.
By clunky I mean:

  • We have a lot of talents we need to take that do not benefit us in any way or are super niche but you have to take them (Moonkin related talents for example, Soothe).
  • We have a 4 talent berserk.
  • We have no hybrid healing. We can heal ourselves a little bit when we have Barskin up, Regen up, Heart up, King of the Jungle up, but without it we heal for 30k with no dampening, so we can’t rly save a friend even if we wanted to.
  • Innervate requires us to leave cat form
  • Rebirth requires us to leave cat form
  • Swiftmend requires us to leave cat form
  • We almost never take any of our capstones
  • Convoke is a dead capstone
  • Cat Form is rly squishy, I wonder if giving say Cat Form the same armor bonus that Moonkin has would help a bit.
  • Regrowth related talents in both class tree and spec tree are dead talents.
  • A ton of talents in our spec tree that we never take.
  • Regen talent that increases healing does not increase it’s own healing
  • Regen is basically 6sec wasted to heal for less than 15% of your HP. At least make it work like Roar to get rid of one of the GCD.
  • Make forms have their own GCD separate from our skills just like Warrior stances I think work currently. Let us more freely “form dance”, that way we’ll probably see bear form used a lot more just to reduce DMG a little bit when needed. This would make the class flow better for sure.

So there are a ton of ways to improve Feral without actually just buffing it. Make regrowth heal more baseline, but reduce the amount of modifiers, making the overall healing stay almost the same, but make it more even and not godlike 200k heals with all up vs 20k heals with nothing up. Make talents that we never take more interesting or viable so we have more than 1-2 builds we never change anything in.

Even if everyone doesn’t think Feral should get more healing, at least let’s make Heart a capstone worth taking. With Heart our healing goes from 30k per cast to 40k per cast, it has 30sec duration, 5min CD. A 5min CD should allow us to heal at least as much as bala heals normally, as I hybrid I want to be able to pop a CD once per game and say save my teammate from death if the healer is in CC. Is that not the whole idea behind a hybrid class?

“Re-vert the Regrowth nerfs and Frenzied Regeneration nerfs and we catJAMing.”
Yes please. I try to always cast roots or regrowth when I have the instant cast proc, but when I see that I healed myself for 15k I sometimes wonder if the GCD was even worth it.

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I wanted to answer everything you wrote but after being half done, I kinda remember something you said so I gave up.
Waste of time.

TLDR and nobody cares what you have to say, so just leave and stop wasting everyones time.

Just as much as your whining about

In arenas.

Fits quite good. Just doing the same as you do, cherrypick.

I was talking about feral in general you braindead. Ferals also don’t play innervate nor swiftmend in PvP, but I also included them. You just proved yet again that your comments are worthless and you are a waste of time. Go back to your cave troll.

I dont call what people write waste of time because I do not agree with their belief like you do. I try to understand them and write based on how I see it, but if people like you, who clearly have personal perspective that everything you say is correct while everyone else is wrong (unless they agree obv) go around saying what I write is waste of time… Sure, I so much take your word as granted.
Sorry, I dont get insulted by people like you, I only did what you did. So if you see this as braindead I do wonder what you see in the mirror.
I cherrypicked and only targeted what was funny the same way you did against me before.

I bet that Blizzard doesn’t care at all because they expect every druid to play boomie to begin with…

You reap what you sow. You came in here attacking everyone. Cherrypicking. Finding any small mistake anyone made within 10 comments and attacking them for that instead of talking about the topic and bigger picture. You wanna be an ahole to others don’t be suprised when you are met with the very same energy. It’s called karma I think. And please stop spamming, your last 20 comments have nothing to do with this thread. The only feedback you gave was “99% of your stats were right, but 1% is wrong! Let me grill you for 15 comments about that 1%!”.

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I didnt personally attack anyone? I said you shouldnt bring up different rating brackets when you only used statistics for one. Thats when you 2 went ham and starting going on a tantrum. Thats not my fault you cant just simply answer it with “I only ment 1800+” but instead went on a rage spree.

You tried to lead my comments into something I didnt talk about. Thats you trying to make it about something else I didnt care about at that point. You might see things as “bigger picture” while others might not, thats entirely up to you.

So I have some kind of aura that I mean something different than what I write because I dont do smileys? Do I have to stop writing with “.”?

You also get responded with the same attitude. Most of what you and your “friend?” have been writing is about fixing and buffing your spec, nothing about fixing the talent tree in a good way. So you get pikachu face when you are being answered on the ways your changes would buff it?

This is actually my 20th comment. You might want to actually look into things before you start exaggerating more. The topic dont even have any clear direction because your “friend?” changed the first post to nothing. The best option would have been to close this one and make a new one that proper suits a direction you want it to go instead of complaining for buffs because thats what it clearly says in the title “feral sucks in pvp so bad”

You refused to accept you shouldnt have brought up 2400+ instead defended yourself with “huh, 2400+ is within 1800+ so I can go around calling out statistics for 1800+ and say its for 2400+”.
Its not my fault you write in the way where people can see it as you writing something you maybe didnt mean but also refused to aknowledge when someone brought it up.