tbf i bet next patches we gettin a restealth. xD
People really out here calling feral weak âŚ
Yea when feral is op.
I wouldnt consider something of barely -A tear OP.
Stop throwing this parasitic word around.
I promise you, that if feral gets to be OP , id be the first to protest but as it is for now feral is neither weak nor OP.
What we have a problem with is the design being outdated.
There other way to approach feral design to make it fun again, new animations would also be good.
But let me go back on track:
So, as I said, clunky design = no fun.
I dont see why you would be against it, generally we want every class to be approachable and fun to play. Feral used to be fun for reasons that are out of the equasion RN, weâre no longer that versatile, speed and mobility are not exclusive to the class, the skill gap issue too and ofc my argument on the fact that class is outdated and clunky.
I suggest you go on to the shaman and dk forums both of ya since Dk for sure needs buffing and as for shaman, i dont really think its in need of anything but maybe you got some ideas which wouldnt hurt to be shared.
Forum used to be a lot healthier is what im trying to say.
You dont need to act like a Karen the townie police forum officer.
I feel like your opinion comes form a place of fear and thats rarely a good thing when it comes to being objective.
Feral wont be OP if we buff its offhealing as we did with shaman.
Feral wont be op if we give it a bit versatility as that was the class identity for 15 + years and during that period feral couldve been annoying but it was rarely considered broken or op.
Thats my stance- it wont change, i actually played feral for a really really long time, tried other classes out, and Ive always been astonished how greately talents benefit other classes vs how they benefit ferals, how high the skill cap is , and the problem is that this skill cap is only high because the class is clunky.
And I fear i repeat myself too many times but ill do it one last time:
Game in general is supposed to be fun and approachable, how can someone approach feral if the spec needs years uppon years of training to reach casual levels of plays where you have to focus on every aspect of it and take advantage of its full toolset to perfection compared to other classes where you can just grab them and fixate on a few mechanics and reach casual levels of plays.
Sorry i really think you guys are not being very objective about it.
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Feral is not hard to play and i never said its op you replied to the wrong person its most certainly not weak thats for sure you dont need years of experience to play feral at a casual level it has currently one of the lowest skill floors since the aoe bleed reworks.
Maybe if them years of experience were used to become a better player you wouldnt be complaining so much you have typed out how much time you have invested multiple times some people take longer to learn than others im guessing thats just you.
Feral does not really have a high skill cap anymore im sorry to break it to you one of the most skillfull parts of feral was pooling energy and snapshotting bleeds half of this has already been removed from the game.
Classical toxic Andy.
Ok bud, like i will just ignore you from now on.
Have a nice day.
Attempting to be objective here
Feral isnât hard to play no, no class is you just press buttons
Feral hard to play well ? AbsolutelyâŚ
Hence why it isnât a super popular class from my experience / pov
Macros, form shifting and gcd understanding and timings, bleed management, defensive CD understanding and management. Floor and ceiling healing concerning regrowth at the moment
Idk mate
This doesnât equate to whether a class is hard or easy to play though?
I got 1600 on Feral end of S1 and have barely ever played the class
Was great against noobs sure (myself) but going up against players that know what to do? Yeah no chance lol
Again, a large part of this thread isnât about claiming feral is in a terrible spot in terms of balance, most are on the same page of its tier rating / viability position
Itâs more about some clunky aspects of the spec, and the defensives
This has got to be a troll
Difference between Snupy or snky and myself is astronomical
You canât be for real lol
If it doesnât have a high Skill-cap , why are a few ferals R1 range, and the rest just mid with really low representation. Focus on the representation part here as itâs the leading point. If a spec doesnât have a high skill ceiling, and is easy to play which is what youâre claiming, youâd see a lot more participation and representation for that spec.
This isnât the case though is it
Awkard
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Everytop player of a spec makes a 1600 player look like a bot and to answer your question about the ferals in r1 range its because feral has always been the class just like mage mostly that the comps are limited and you need hunter/disc friends as jungle is the comp that is always viable for feral others change all the time also feral has always been a low represented spec rogue is much more popular.
can you stop talking about 3v3 for 1 second.
You pay to play a game where u can only accesss 3v3 ? is this really your argument?
I play rbg and 2s and soloshuffle too.
disc/feral is a top 2s comp feral is also a top class in shuffle with the bleed build rbg its fine in team fights too what are you complaining aboutâŚ
Also no if someone says someone is in rank one range im going to bring up 3v3 as that is where r1 is they could also mean shuffle but the same princible applies.
what do you mean with Zero dmg? , what i can say, u getting out dps in every single target dmg scenario, except against sub rogue, but assa also will out dps you so what?
ofc the overall singletarget dmg/pressure from feral sucks, like i said Ret with big wings, but bad overall dmg
this shouldnt be a surprise that overall singletarget from feral isnt good, its also the worst in pve, thats why feral getting a huge singletarget buffâŚ
i told you what im complaining about.
The huge clunky mess feral is in.
Yes you can SAY whatever but that is personal / subjective? Can you link me a scenario where a good feral is doing absolutely âzeroâ damage when they are up against all these other classes?
Give. An. Example? Video? Screenshot?
Iâve slapped and clapped 2700 players. It was in shuffle so no doubt itâll be " itâs just shuffle"
They went 2-4
If they made me look like a bot, itâs a complete anomaly for them to go 2-4 in a 1400mmr lobby
Even more awkward
I feel your post didnât really answer my initial comment to you either
You will not beat a 2700 dh if you was to face one the same way a 1600 feral would not beat a 2700 feral i hope this clears it up that all classes and specs have better players.
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Right I see what you mean
Thanks for clarifying!
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Thats common sense however my issue is players of 1.6 xp on a new class come close to my power level as a 2.3 xp player.
stop looking at xp your current rank is the only thing that matters.
Sam situation 2.1 this season. Hardstuckies at 1.6 feel closely strong as me. Stop hunting for semantics and actually hear what im communicating.
Somewhat flattered by this
You think iâm as good as you at 1600?
not being serious in-case you bite