Divine Toll is not the problem here. Nerfing DT to the ground will just make the other abilities follow soon after.
I’m critting people for over 18k in arena with templar’s verdict and 12k divine storms BECAUSE OF SERAPHIM.
Divine Toll alone hardly does any damage.
Sadly we got alot of one shooting things going on just today in Arena I had a Shaman get off 6 Lava Bursts or whatever its called in 0.53 secs taking me from 100% to 0% side note I have 51k health and 20% versa in my PvP outfit.
Not to mention I’ve seen Convokes that takes down an entire team in a matter of secs. PvP damage output and healing aswell tbh is broken. If they nerf damage healers will be way to powerful so they need to nerf both healing/damage if they gonna do something about the current PvP.
“ONE SHOT” by 3 judgements… Seems legit.
So not in combination of wings, Sera, righteous verdict talent, judgment debuff, final reckoning passive debuff, final reckoning on use debuff? Then add Zerker, trinket, pots and whatever flag carrier debuff on target?
Sera alone is what gets you to 18k TVs?? Sure
The covenant ability with conduit is 1 press of a button and it can procc 3 judgments with luck.
1 attack on 1 min CD so yhea… a oneshot
really people opening a post everytime they get rekt?? xD
No, only when rekt by a Paladin.
When other classes destroy them they just carry on, for some reason a Paladin actually doing damage seems to annoy people.
Seraphim, Wings, trinket, Divine Toll and Final Reckoning gets me to crit a 18k Templar’s Verdict in arena. Seraphim provides the crit for that initial 18k to happen and the FR itself usually crits for 12k so that’s 30k in 2 globals, without counting the Divine Toll.
“Done 21k crit with everything perfectly lined up”
Then I press Wake of Ashes and crit another 12k - 14k into a Judgment followed by another 18k - 20k TV with Righteous Verdict.
Above scenario is of course with everything critting.
And the scenario the OP made was DT just proccing.
I would post that if anyone hadn’t already. Thank you for the common sense <3
Does common sense include that maybe he wasent at full health? And say put you in that scenario, how much health would you have left after in your current gear? Would you survive FR - TV - Wake - TV right after?.. one of them? all of them?
Problem with DT its a mini burst all of its own while everything else listed is a sequence with combination of skills. Now its luck that it procced sure… but he could even more luckier if everything crit aswell… would you survive that?
You speak of common sense yet seem to lack it from where i stand.
First of all my gear is also crap because due to IRL issues I haven’t been playing much. Hence I’ve been killed by sub rogue in 2 two GCDs when he got me with no CDs nor trinket.
Having said that, since the current state of the game involves deaths in a couple GCDs and with the knowledge that my gear are lackluster, I would NEVER see a glowing freaking train with butterfly wings come to me and just stand there to take the full blast. Rets are one of the easiest classes to run away from. So, again, when you see an angry butterfly holding a huge sword and coming to you, you RUN.
And if you think you cannot, then you should really be on the mage or rogue, for example, forums that hit like trains and there is no chance you can outrun them.
My common sense is common enough to pick my fights according to my level of gear and support compared to that of my opponent. To simplify it for you, I will NOT try to kill a group of three (w/e class) with my health to 70% and no defensive and offensive CDs. And if they kill me I will not complaint.
I’m sorry but if you get one shot from Divine toll judgement the only reasonable answer there is “get gear”. This is a non issue /thread
I see… ok i agree and same goes for all other “oneshots” as most of them are about the same lvl /theread over for my part aswell
I just tested on dummy as Retribution, 2.7k Judgements, 2.7k Divine Toll, not really any difference. Is this in PvP only?
Just gonna re-enter and say my judgment on dummy is 1.3k… does DT buff normal judgment aswell?
DT doesn’t buff regular judgments. Judgments from DT hit for 200% (175% in PvP).
It was a lucky rng one a really lucky one or you’re undergeared maybe post with your retail main?
Somebody give this man a cookie and a glass of milk so he can calm down and use some cooldowns the next time a ret open their burst on him.
if you only do that after divine toll and not NOT after divine toll then yeah divine toll is the problem m8
Sincerely, Prot Venthyr
Do not touch my seraphim
OP crying about balance with 21k HP in PVP. Now I have read everything :D.