just playing shaman in sod. I had my dual wield. But hitting lvl20 and getting my 2h just made me happier.
I’ve been playing wow since start. As enhancement.
I want 2h happen in retail. I said b4. Saying againg. Just wanted to share. GN!
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I don’t see why not, if Frost DK can now wield a 2h weapon, I think 2h weapon enhancement might just become a reality in the next expansion.
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You mean : “I see why not; looking at Frost DKs being now a bottom F tier spec because of the 2H/dual balancing.”
/shrug I don’t play frost dk so I don’t know, I’ve heard they are in a bad spot, but still there is a handful of players that knows how to play Frost DK.
What do the players that know how to play frost dk have to do with that ??
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We’re not talking about DK’s perfomance, we’re talking about offering more flexibility for shaman players who prefer to use 2h weapon.
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But what’s the point of having flexibility if it comes with the costs of having our dps ruined by the balancing of 2H/Dual ?
How do you guys come to the conclusion that have 2h-duel wield option is the reason frost dks are bad at dps? I see this argument poppin up here and there. Which is the most crapped up way to think about anything at all.
You think developer X spends Y amount of time to balance 2h to duel wield. So developer X doesn’t have enough time to balance those against other classes dps? How much time do you actually think it takes?
You guys just say things sometimes.
Even if it is the way you guys say it is (which is NOT). Than should they just stop everything to keep balance of things? Do they actually do such thing during times they don’t give us 2h option? No?
Just don’t release another expension than because enhancement dps may turn out to be bad.
Why would i (and you) CARE how hard it is to balance 2h enhancement. They are balancing 30+ specs (good or bad). Even if it turns out to be EXTREAMLY hard to balance 2h enhancement (which is -lol- not) it will just be +1 spec “hardness”
Just drop this stoooopid argument. You don’t have to be developers advocate all the time. You CAN want things.
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Im so confused. What do you want? 2h shamans? You dont want 2h shamans?
Either way. You have real world examples that messing around with that takes you nowhere. Fury warriors and Frost DK among them. Better to just settle for 1 and that’s it.
I’d love a 2h shaman build. I see some people saying it won’t work due to how wind fury works and because of balance and how well frost dk works.
But why can’t they just rework enhance to suit both play styles?
I play a Tauren shammy but can’t wield the totem 2h mace.
Imagine if we could’ve equipped the new legendary axe. It probably fits the meaty ally a shammy more than a dk and paladin.
Enhance just feels like melee range ele, give us strikes. The wind fury thing is problematic but I’m sure it could be done.
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Bring back 2H weapon for enhance even if not as a real thing let people just put 2 wep shaman imbuedment enchants on a 2hander and you have the exact same thing Stat wise + Dps wise.
I cant stand people who say Look how bad Fury or Frost is because of that … sry Fury is in awesome Spot right now , frost Dk no clue but they do have their Ups and Downs each patch and its not the reason for balancing 2hander for them or duel wielding its pure Abillity Nerf/Buff they both generate more/less recourses and deal dmg from their overall wep attack speed , its an MMO and have More options in MMO is only Net Positive … all those people can continue with the same logic and say But why add Dragonriding? But why add Differnet talent points? but why add Mythic + ? but why add Player housing? But why add anything vertical or especial Horizontal into a game ? Considering MMOS live and die mostly Because of Horizontal and more options to do or choose from in them we have seen WoW player numbers plum into the earth because of the Years and Years of only Vertical same content you do without flavour Raid/Dung/pvp 3s Redo and Regear when it becomes Stale and boring , This is exactly why Classic wow Booms so hard it was the most sandboxy WoW ever was with Options to choose from and starts the game from LvL 1 and not max , i feel sorry for chose who don’t see anything good from more horizontal options in the game itself maybe you should go play League of legends or Monster hunter we are playing MMOS and we want it to grow and not “Repeat”.
Dude, atleast use spacing in your massive parragraphs! 
Fury and Frost are both OK. And they would be in an even BETTER state if they did not have this issue.
So its an overall loss to have options in general.
Dreaming about “What would be” if “Something wouldn’t be” is for lunatics , there is specs who have no options and perform even worse and that’s a fact that blows your wishful thinking away.
if you don’t want to have options don’t play any MMO play mario.
OK. What is the point of having 1000 hair conditioner options in a world with only bald men?
Dreaming of something that is impractical is just a waste of time. I agree with options that can actually work and will bring something positive. 2h-1h discussion is not one of them.
Dreaming for something that will make gameplay worse is a mistake.
And dreaming for the sake of dreaming is a waste of time.
Its only your Opinion that something will make Gameplay worse Which is what you said you are Dreaming it in the sake of dreaming and making it look waste of time in your mind.
Its not a waste if a lot from the shaman community wants it from the start , nowdays 2hander have same stats as 2 1handers so it isn’t an issue at all its only blizzard and how it balances specs which enhance is lowest tier atm in PVP and its not a 2hander option that made it lowest tier now.
Every option will bring positivity for someone no one forces YOU to play it its an option no one says rework enhance ONLY for 2hander.
Just like blizz did shaman tank now in SoD and people love it and it works stop dragging blizzard down and give them what they were good at long time ago and it was Trying new things and not “Following the herd” but even that blizz doesn’t do we still don’t see player housing and lots of stuff other Big mmos do nowdays which player actually LIKE.
Re gearing for the sake of just Re gearing in new raid patch is a waste of time after you do it each patch for 1000 times those times has passed and if player numbers don’t bother you then keep running the hamster wheel atleast dragonriding is a start at the right direction and class reworks they did at Dragonflight.
Thats the reason why I compare that with Fury and DK. Because its not my opinion. Blizz objectively cannot balance out weapon types. Simple as that.
Absolutely not true. 2-handers have a higher weapon damage than 1-handers.
And if you have skills that say: Weapon Damage + AP + verse , as ALL melees have (including Enh Shaman) then you WILL have a ton of balancing issues.
That is exactly the problem with Fury and DK Frost. 
No, 2-handers have OFC higher wep dmg then 1-hander , the thing is x2 1 handers and a 2hander have the exact same Stats Agi/int/vers/haste , x2 1 handers attack faster but have same DPS as 2hander which swings slower that’s the thing , Using on DK frost strike with 2 hander will hit for example 30k and 2-1handers will hit 15k-15k That’s an example for your Low knowladge of how it works , The only problem with Frost DK is the only talent (Breath of sindregosa) which usually makes people use 2x1handers because you swing faster and generate Resource faster when it auto consumes it Thats the only problem with it that 1handers swing twice and 1 of them can crit and generate more resource for frost DK as for 2hander you have only 1 chance to crit otherwise if you dont play the sindregosa breath build Which is PVE only BTW it does perform the same.
Thank you for showing you have 0 knowlege of how weps perform edited by moderatorxDD “2HANDER hits Harder” xD funny guy Read Stormstrike description and how it worked with 2hander its same dmg like a mage using 2hander staff or 1hand and offhand and casting Firebolt same dmg just when you duel wielded as enhance it would deal total same amount of dmg just using each wep instread of a total pull from the abillity in 1 strike.
BTW why you are using a Staff as elemental shaman? its a 2hander XD why not duel wield a 1hander and a shield? your same logic here kiddo same way it worked for enhance as 2hander just as you use a staff now the only problem was Lava lash builds and that you could put only 1 wep imbuedment on , easy fix like blizz did for classes that use both you can use 2 imbuedment (flametongue+Windfury for example) on 2handers.
I play Resto Shaman. And that’s because nothing better dropped. 
Also, in the case of casters weapon damage has no effect. So it is a stat stick, nothing more.
OK. Il put just 1 example.
Windfury. % chance to do a 2nd attack.
So now you have the following choices: Either (A) 2x 1-handers which means windfury hits less hard but you have more resource generation. OR (B) you play the Russian roulette and hope for a hard hitting 2nd hit in exchange for less resource generation.
How would you even begin to balance this? Especially because you need to do this perfect. Or else people will just copy what is best and move on.
And just like it there are 1000 other things to consider. Not just secondary stats.
Windfury and enhance is already Russian roulette with random procs and CD resets my guy, Windfury has a chance to proc same as 1hander so it was on 2hander , 1 hander hits faster but does overall same DPS … 2 hander hits slower but more but does overall same DPS its same Stat stick as using staff on ele/resto in PvP you use shield just because of the extra armor , we generate resourser “Maelstrom” on lucky spell hits not from our auto attack speed … Frost DK generates runic power just from hitting the Mob and More if you hit a Crit that’s the diff between the Specs we don’t have that mechanic.
BTW no one this season even picks Windfury weapon imbuedment because the meta is Elementalist as in PvP so in PVE you just use 1 Flametongue on your offhand.
Again 1 simple solution for it is giving abillity to put 2 wep imbuedments on a 2hander if someone wants to run Windfury and you have the exact same DPS, in older versions of wow each wep even 1hander had diff wep attack speed so did 2handers which would make it hell to balance but in retail wow all 2handers have same Attack speed/DPS so does all duel wields if you compare to 2hander, Its all Stat sticks with different visuals on retail.
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