were not bad with that when it comes to “double tap” “multi-shot” “rapid fire”
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But Beast Master is better.
WHERES THE LOYALTY!!!
‘makes faces in survival’
I don’t like MM, so no loyalty!
I like Survival a lot tbh.
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You know fun thing with MM. In old days I wanted a hunter build without a pet. The pet AI annoyed heck out of me.
Come MM, I like the original versions of it to main it for a while in raids over my usual dk, but BfA version never spoke to me. I cannot even say why. I feel too vulnerable. For me Hunter is like the ultimate survivalist in the world, but MM does not feel like that.
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Well, maybe you get invited because of your ilvl, rio, and whatnot, but then he realized u are MM and he has bad experience with MMs so he rather kicked you…
Im not saying its good, but hey, if i invited lock for +15 and he will go afli ill ask him if he is sure about it and then politely tell him i, as a leader, dont agree with that… Same. With sub rogue/surv hunt… So few random players can justify those specs.
Also would be nice if blizz did something like role check and talent check, or something… Shaman is joining to my group and i dont know if he is melee or ranged untill i inv him…
MM is the typical ranger, but things shouldn’t be able to reach you, so you’d need a constant slow on the target to make it Worth it, imo.
Have my pet fight for me? Great.
Fight together WITH my pet side by side? Perfection.
Fighting without a pet at all? I die now.
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But if their score (which you have already approved of) was earned while in that spec, you have already seen the justification that they are capable of playing at that level. If you have the evidence that it’s possible, what more do you need?
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Because a marksman is not oriented around pets. I love playing an archer, I hate having pets. Besides of that, you can summon + de-summon. Other than that, I usually have a mage or shaman with me anyway.
As a marksman I refuse to play with pets
In dungeons and raids yes, pve in general their nice though.
Also i miss pet combat rez >:C
Would love to see MM be able to cast everything on the move.
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That’s what I meant. this process of you can summon+dismiss, but i have seen MM hunters refusing to do this. While you can i.e. summon pet during that short window that happens prior boss pull (most commonly tanks wait cds/healer mana whatever, but often theres very brief moment) and hit hero while tank runs/aggros, and dismiss it and have minimal dps loss for self, but have dps boost for group.
This is why my hunters are engineers. BOO AT YOU, Blizz 
Although my hunters been engineers since vanilla 
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Spirit mend is more valuable.
We got bursting shot, instead of stun 1 target, we can “typhoon” uninterrumptable spell.
I agree with that. But if they invite player it’s beacause they are confident with that player with that key. So why when it’s written “Marksmanship” they don’t agree with themself ?
Some do , some don’t. It’s depend on the situation. But again it’s depend on the player. If 5% more haste on BL is more valuable than 3,3% of the damage of the hunter while in BL then it’s valuable to exit pet for BL.
Drums please don’t forget about that.
Double stun ? Instead of intimidation we got Bursting Shot. Better and usefull in sanguin / necrotic / grievous and uninterrumptable spell.
You will not get everytime a hunter with ferocity pet. In hight key Survival of the fittest ( -20% dmg reduced, 3 mn cd) is a obligation. but in medium and low key why not.
Lone wolf is better for Single target and AoE. But if the 5% haste is more valuable for the team than the hunter in term of damage / survibility then the hunter must exit his pet to BloodLust.
We got bursting shot instead, different utility but it save tank a lot, same utility than typhoon but baseline spell.
6 target in aoe ( 1 primary target - 5 Trickshoted target (take the primary spell and deal 50% dmg to other target).
But 6 mobs pulled it’s already fine , i only understand that state if they got a good tank and take more than 6 .
I mean we all got bad experience with some people, but there’s 36 spec in wow. if you got bad experience with those all 36 specs you stop playing with people ? I don’t think that how it should work.
If he already timed that level, why do you fear that ? Even if he timed a +17 as affliction you will not take him in +14 beacause you disagree.
Time can change. Idea of Specialisation/people should too.
I can 85% kite WW monk and Warrior , and so any PvE mobs.
Maybe i’m a worgen that the reason why but still i don’t agree with “i die now”.
I agree with that point.
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Truth hurts, I’m sure!
That was more directed how I felt playing.
Not saying everyone is as speshulz as me when it comes to MM. c:
Would it be any different if he asked what spec you were in queue and then declined you after you said MM?
People don’t ask because it doesn’t even cross their mind you might not be BM, and if it did they would ask before inviting you. People shouldn’t be asses about telling you why though, agreed, but it’s their group and they have absolutely tonnes of potential options.
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Sometime it happen, but they don’t ask if you are Marksmanship hunter, they ask if you are Beast Mastery.
They just want Beast Mastery in that case.
It’s rare they ask, more easier to 5 click than to wisp 3 words and wait for the answer.
Solo PvE on marksman is pretty terrible and one of the reasons I stopped it, primarily because pets don’t have growl. Have to misdirect on my pet all the time…
MM pet does have growl. Check into spellbook pet to move it to your spellbar pet.
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It does have growl xD
confession: I have to this day never used misdirect xD
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