Kidney Shot the strongest ability ingame?

7 sec duration with 20 sec cd? This is way too strong for the damage in this meta.
Give it a 45 sec cooldown and it would actually make a difference if you bladestorm/fade/meta or whatever to dodge it.
A 20 second ability should not be this strong.

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Yeah it’s ridiculously broken. Not to mention another 2 sec cheapshot after. You can simply die in that one stun.

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Quick maths.

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1+1 = 1
??

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Wow really? I had no idea. But please, keep defending Rogues that are able to kill someone in a single stunlock, smart guy.

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i ain’t defending rogues, stating that kidney and cheapshot are 2 differents abilities xd

They both do the same thing, they both stun. I have not implied they’re different at all. One’s longer than the other sure, but do the same thing. I fail to recognize your argument.

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that’s the point, they’re different, hoj and asphyxiate are both stuns yet they’re different lol. one is used as an opener as it grants combo points and the other one spends said combo points.

Hey, big facts, HoJ can get dispelled. Long a$$ rogue stun can not. Sorry you’re in denial but gee whizz.

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what about asphyxiate?

Not talking about DKs here champ.

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welp, my diagnosis is cognitive potential too narrow to grasp that 2 abilities that apply the same cc can be different.

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You know you have 2 abilities that can remove kidney right ?? sanc and bop?

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Quick maffs aside, Kidney is unironically busted ye.

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It’s physical stun, it can’t be dispelled by magical dispel. Although it’s only 4 sec.

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Just line it bro

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You can’t use Blessing of Sanctuary while stunned and BoP has a 5 min cooldown. And the rogues will generally run to reset, the moment you press it. You can’t even stop them even from getting away.

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Cant dispel a hoj if you cross cc also.

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i think i know the difference between both, if you’d die in a hoj + asphyxiate combo you wouldn’t say you died in a single stun. same goes for kidney + cheapshot. i don’t think kidney is the issue but the cheapshot “spam”

Really? That’s your argument.

Well, they can trinket the HoJ, they can pre-cloak it and they also have Vanish, they have Shadowstep which they can also use on friendly to get away, Sprint(with the PvP Talent: Maneuverability) which prevent them from getting slowed or rooted.

Also, your claims are based on the perfect scenario against rogue/mage/healer. Which to be honest, requires either voice communication or that all 3 members of your team to know what to do and when to do it, which is not a common occurrence with a team made up of LFG people.