Kings or wisdom?

I just ran as priest in a group with two palas and this lvl 40 warlock with 1300 mana. And this one’s mana bar is my mana bar.

I have a question. If someone already has terrible base mana, would you bless bok or bow? Warlock was a big spender with awful regen so after 2nd boss I kept asking for wisdom on lock but no one reacted. Lock later removed kings by accident and got new kings :'D

I’m still sad. Personally I find that kings is wasted on me as a healer, whenever I can have only one. 10% extra int and spirit won’t help me much during high pressure. Maining holy paladin, I also almost feel like kings cancels out salvation anyway. Any additional thoughts on that?

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If I’m playing a mana user I want wisdom. If I’m playing melee then I want might. Kings is nice, but at low levels it’s almost useless because your stats are so low.

As a warlock main my preference of blessings is as follows:

  1. Salv
  2. Kings
  3. idc

At lower lvls the blessings has far less of an impact, kings scales really well and is quite good at max lvl.
I’d still put kings over BoW on a lvl 40 lock though, at that lvl he should be able to manage mana fairly well if he knows what he’s doing.

This is for warlocks though, since BoK boosts both mana & hp and we’re using both it works quite well for us.

What do you mean Kings cancels out salv?

One gives you stats while the other reduces threat gain, care to elaborate on your thoughts?

I mean, if you have two paladins… just give both?(If nobody’s handing out salv anyway)
As a healer, I prefer blessing of wisdom over kings.
But at lower level, it doesn’t really matter.
Warlock wise would usually be kings/salv > wisdom, since warlocks get lifetap.

I always request wisdom over kings, the extra mp5 is way more useful than kings.
My preference is wisdom>kings>salv.

BoW for paladin and shaman. BoK for druid and holy priest. Ask disc priest what he wants. Works everytime.

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Druids and h.priests usually stack a lot of spirit and get mp5 from it, so at some point bok > bow for them.

Holy priest gets a lot of +healing from it as well so King is almost always better.

He didn’t manage mana at all, he also tapped down to 20% hp several times during encounters. So in this instance it was a wasted blessing. I never really go in with the mindset that someone “should be able to” or “knows what he’s doing” to begin with.

Precisely that. By empowered stats you will generate more threat accordingly, and it can be hard to taunt things off a lock to begin with, regardless of BoS. That’s what I meant. ^-^

As for other replies I wanna add that the pallies blessed salv and kings with me as the exception (wisdom and kings).

In the situations that this thread regards, 10% on int and spirit is kinda useless because I needed to spam heal. I could only afford to wand when oom hahah.
But I actually didn’t consider that +heal was a stat that got buffed.

As a casual player whenever I play a manauser I want wisdom. Idk for the extra base stat but I enjoy having to reg less

If you’re a healer, you’d usually want wisdom either way over kings.
Spirit mana regen mostly relies on you not casting rather than wisdom actually granting mp5 regardless of whether you’re casting.

Wisdom isn’t really a priority with a warlock either way(over kings anyway), but the warlock should be eating/bandaging himself rather than making you heal him.
Because you’re the one that’s gonna waste mana rather than him eating.
So instead of him bandaging/eating, you’re gonna have to heal him > drink afterwards.

I asked a prot pally I really admire and he said:
”blessing of wisdom is superior at low levels - kings is rubbish at low levels” (…) ”i would not worry too much about it - most people just like to see numbers go up on their char even if it is insignificant amount - BoW doesnt do that - so people just think it is not good even at low levels”

So, conclusion, this was a bad example of a pug; on lowlevels, which makes my concern a little insignificant actually. My biggest problem was probably just how silent and vacant the group was about it :slight_smile:

It’s just not that big of a deal and most likely these players are not competent enough to know themselves what blessings they need. Just try to be a confident paladin by not acting like a heal-buff b!ch that does what others demand. If warlocks lifetap a lot, just don’t heal them. They should learn how to sustain themselves or earn your support by showing excellent skills.
When i played a warlock, many healers were shocked about my use of life-tap and told me to slow down because they can’t heal that much. I just told them to not worry about my HP, i don’t need their healing. A warlock basically only needs healing when he’s a target (which should rarely be the case in a dungeon).

As a shadow priest I’d take Salvation over Kings and Wisdom combined.

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Didn’t you take the threat reduction talents from the shadow tree? You don’t even need salvation if you did, as long as the tank is semi decent.

Of course I did, but at ~1,2k +shadow unbuffed, I do a lot of threat.

Ah ok, you have way better gear than me then :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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