As the title says, KR is exactly this. A PvP BG should never be rewarding tokens for PvE gear (timewarped) and it shouldn’t be a tool that players use to level insanely quickly. All of KR’s rewards should have been PvP oriented, either PvP supplies (potions etc.) or Marks of Honor to use for older/current transmog items. And there should have been a larger emphasis on putting the dailies out in the field rather than in the central bases, and having those dailies focused more around actual PvP than PvE collection quests.
As it stands, KR is a disaster, as you have one side taking it seriously (Horde) and the other just laying back and getting absolutely owned 90% of the time just so they can get the huge XP boost that KR awards them for simply losing again and again. It should never have been put in as it is, and I hope that the dev team at Blizzard learn a LOT of lessons from this before they try something similar again.
as i mention it in another of these nonsense threads…its an event not an regular bg. if you don’t like it, don’t join it. there is an org. AV aswell.
ppl want to play the game their way because we all pay for it.
i got kickt because of doing quest…so what.
you can join KR for all that stuff or join org. AV. your decision.
use it as a chance to level alts quick, get reputation or something like that.
…Your points have no value. They aren’t even relevant to what my original post was about. KR shouldn’t be a PvP event because at it’s core it is intensely PVE centric and encourages people to AFK simply to gain immense amounts of experience, thereby ruining the experience for people who actually want to PvP, the whole reason KR is in a PvP queue menu in the first place.
Blizzard could have easily put this into the game as a PvE Warfront and no-one would be complaining, instead they made this a PvP event that is hellish for Alliance players to grind through and gives Horde players the ability to double dip quest rewards (those sweet Korrak weapons) because of Mercenary Mode while Alliance get jack all because the vast majority of us never see MM come up as an option because of the vastly skewed Horde/Alliance ratio.
WoW’s 15th Anniversary event favors horde and ofcourse a Zandalari ‘‘Troll’’ will found this scandal as non-sense. By the way is it good to have ‘‘alliance privilege to having shorter queue times’’ by playing horde side?
It is nonsense. It’s complete nonsense. The Korrak’s Revenge is the perfect example that reflect what is true balance between horde pvp and alliance pvp. The whole stupid expansion was done for alliance rather than hordes, who already had PvP. When expansion kicked off, we all saw what happened, hordes were dominating WPvP. So Blizzard, to maintain their theme of the expansion, gave Alliance 15-30% bonus. Then they created quests with rewards so alliance would “do pvp”, hordes never had it, at least on EU servers. Now please tell me which faction is more favoured by Blizzard. It’s crystal clear it’s Alliance not Horde. The fact that one faction wins a BG in vast majority doesn’t mean this faction is favoured by Blizzard. There is more in that.
Completely agreed. WoW’s 15th Anni. The Korrak Revenge scandal showed us all that under Mercenary PvP mode Alliance actual win rates are very low and it is horde mercs comes to the Alliance side and makes Alliance win. WoW’s 15th Anni. The Korrak Revenge scandal showed us true face of Mercenary PvP mode.
Dear Kind Sir,
Did you ever tried activate War Mode as an Alliance player and saw it yourselfs how it is looks like from Alliance side? Did you ever witness that Drustvar’s all flight points, central Arom’s Stand and most of parts under horde control for long time and did you ever been able TO FINISH 4 WQs IN 1,5 HOURS that you can finish in 30 min (without flying, was Season 1) Warmode off? No? I understand. When you play a horde biased game called World of Hordecraft, which developed by pro-horde player devs ofcourse this is what you will think. But please let me tell you something dear kind sir: by comparing time difference 30 min. to 1,5 hours, your pro horde devs %30 bribes to ENTERTAIN HORDE PLAYERS is LESS THAN ENOUGH. It should be more than %300 for Alliance players who spends 3 times more time to complete only 4 WQs. After that, maybe I can start to think activate Warmode on by sacrifice my fun and start to entertain favored horde players.
I am laughing dear kind Sir, don’t be funny. At least to Yourselfs.
Can you please Dear Kind Sir enough kind and tell me which quests they are? I am asking this because I don’t know and I want to know it.
Proposition/thesis made by Eardina: Alliance is favoured by Blizzard
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Result accepted by Eardina:
Conclusion by positive science: Blizzard favours Horde on the horde biased game which is more often called World of Hordecraft.
Let me tell you the truth Dear Kind Sir; the thing your highness called ‘‘a bg’’ is World of Hordecraft’s 15th Anni. special event. This scandal should be implemented equally win/lose/gain by ALL PLAYERS but not only beloved favored privileged Horde players. In fact, under such huge faction imbalance, that put in-game by Blizzard over the passing years (the fun fact is, they are still nerfing alliance racials and they won’t stop this until the game completely dies) this special event shouldn’t be a bg. And this is another conclusion by positive science: Blizzard favours Horde on the horde biased game which is more often called World of Hordecraft.
It is really hard to comment on what you have just written. Are they still related to KR? Anyway, these are your personal opinions which are far from true. Racials don’t win battles, players with optimised gear do: different for PvP than PvE, obviously. If you are geared well, you kill everything no matter what your skills are; I mean there are some differences as melee seem to do more DMG than casters, some classes have insane healing, there are OP bundles in arena, there are DK and DH but all this is a different story and racial / races has nothing to do with that. Obviously, doing PvP is not just about turning WM on and “do PvP”, which seems to be the case. There are several things to consider. If you don’t do that, you most likely fail. Perhaps hordes are more into classes they play, perhaps they study more and that’s why they seem to be more “pro”. Well, everyone becomes “pro” or master by studying a subject. But again this is NOTHING TO DO with Blizzard favouring one faction over the other. And from top of my head, the quest with the reward I mentioned is AOO (Against Overwhelming Odds). Hordes by doing WPvP had only a 10% bonus, the alliance had 30% + a piece of gear of raid level.
You have also referred a lot to situations like “ganking” only from one side of the coin. The alliance had difficult times to quest, yes, but have you forgot about alliance raids in 20v1, 30v1, 40v1 against Horde? Besides this all imbalance is not caused directly by Blizzard. I mean it is because they designed it. Players also are to blame. There is definitely no such thing as a favoured faction and this is what I tried to point out here: there are many more things to consider instead of just blaming blizzard for someone’s failures.
In Korrak’s Revenge, I think all gear related advantages are removed and what you wear is almost equal regardless of class and faction, not 100% sure though. Now, what I said before may not necessarily relate to KR. The players’ skills, organised battles, assaulting strategic points fast, team playing make huge difference, rather than individual crazy fools running against bunch of players of opposite faction equal to AFKs because in KR you need everyone! It looks to me KR reflects true balance in factions. Does it still have to do anything related to favoured faction? No.
Horde has some advantages in this one, I play both factions and I can see the difference.
When Alliance reaches the middle of the map Horde already caps the first bunker, that is a huge advantage. It takes Alliance a great deal of time to reach the first tower.
When you reach the Iceblood Graveyard you have 4 Elites to deal with.
When Horde reaches the main Allie base, they just cross the bride and make a right or a left to enter the bunkers, for Allie you have to cross the entire Horde base, a tunnel, a ramp with mines and then you reach the towers.
Another one, Alliances druids summ ritual is in the path of both allie and horde, while the horde summoners are on the side where no one ever goes.
There are many more …
There is a reason why after the fix Allie started to win almost 80% of the time in AV …
I am pleased to read that because it is well known fact that arguing against realities and truth with opposing ideas is one of the hardest thing on earth and this is why the history has full of conflict and violence.
I am simply replying your argument sentence by sentence to show to how WoW is in fact horde biased and the scandal which is called Korrak’s Revenge (more often called Korrak Scandal by unliked Alliance players) makes it more and more visible. Are you Feign Death by typing
Or is it your general behavior Feigning Death when you understand you are losing an argument and going off-topic?
I do not remember anything I typed about these things. And please stop telling me the things that I already know and tell me the things that I don’t know. This things are also off-topic and not related horde bias reality and WoW 15th Anni. special event Korrak’s Scandal.
And again… I do not remember anything I typed about these things. And please stop telling me the things that I already know and tell me the things that I don’t know. This things are also off-topic and not related horde bias reality and WoW 15th Anni. special event Korrak’s Scandal.
I do not remember that I mentioned that horde players looks more ‘‘pro’’. Please do not go off-topic. If you want to discuss about why horde players looks more ‘‘pro’’, then create a separated topic about it.
Ofcourse it is because this is off-topic and never mentioned something like this.
Then they created quests, hordes never had it.
Well if that is my misunderstanding due to your bad language usage, then I understand now what you meant. You mean they created same quests for both factions but Alliance gain more rewards by doing it, which I understand that they created some Alliance only PvP quests, which horde never have it. I am also not a native English speaker and making linguistic mistakes many times. BUT
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHA I can’t help but laughing. Please give me a moment, I sprayed the tea I was drinking on my monitor while I was laughing to this, let me clean the mess.
My beloved mate, don’t you understand what I am trying to explain to you? Or don’t you want to understand it? If you don’t want to understand it, then I can’t do much thing about it. Let me repeat it again and again: By comparing Alliance players increased time to spend to achieve these PvP quests, %30 bribes to the Alliance players very very ludicrous. Let me repeat it again and again: Most of alliance players neither activates Warmode on, nor do these wPvP quests because of huge faction imbalance. Let me repeat it again and again: Most of
Alliance players don’t do this quests so they don’t actually get something %30 ( HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA) increased, but horde players always get their %10 AT ALL THE TIME. Let me repeat it again and again: If you slowly put such huge faction imbalance to the game over the years and don’t get some serious precautions about it, after you killed a faction, EVERY INCREASED PvP REWARDS YOU PUT IN-GAME ACTIVITIES WORK FOR THE FACTION YOU WERE FAVORED OVER THE YEARS WHICH IS HORDE.
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I don’t know what to say…This horde players… Still typing %30… fascinating…
No. I haven’t referred ganking. Ganking is very different thing than ‘‘calling Alliance players to do some wPvP to have some fun’’. Ganking means in MMORPG’s to attack a lone member of the enemy team with many people on high level character or 1 vs 1ing someone that’s a very low level and has no chance of winning or even significantly harming the aggressor. In MMORPG’s, to define some action as ganking, the ganker(s) should have very small to no income by doing this action likewise no honorable kills, no honor gains etc. And also to define some action as ganking, killing low lvl player action should be repeated numbers of times. Neither killing a low lvl player by mistake nor aggressively clearing your way to the quest zone by killing low lvl players can be classified as ganking.
In 1,5 months of activating WM, I witnessed 4 times same actions on different zones on Kul Tiras. The Horde groups are doing nothing wrong with this. Today we have ‘‘City raiding guides’’ on net. This is what wPvP looks like. They are simply trying to trigger wPvP what it should be but it is currently not, just because faction imbalance that put in game by developer by favoring horde side. In the end, they get what they wanted for a loooooong time: A horde biased game.
Do you see contradiction in your two different sentence?
Nice confession by a horde player.
And contradictions continues…
Small step for dev’s, big step for Eardina the horde player.
Someone’s failures? Can you please be more specific who is exactly this ‘‘Someone’’? The man who lives on the clouds? Or is it that evil Illuminati who wears black hoods and performs evil ceremonies on underground sanctuaries?
It is not. I am 1 vs 3’ing the heirloom wearers inside Korrak’s Scandal. It was not that easy 1 vs 3ing the people on my normal AV runs.
Everyone knows faction imbalance intentionally created by game developers over the years. And after the situation comes to that point, they put Korrak’s Revenge to celebrate 15th Anni of WoW by knowing huge faction imbalance and by giving their FAVORED BELOVED PREFERENTIAL horde players PRIVILEGE TO BECOME ALLIANCE PLAYERS BUT NOT GIVING SAME PRIVILEGES TO THE ALLIANCE PLAYERS TO BECOME HORDE PLAYERS BY USING BROKEN MERC SYSTEM. This is where is Korrak’s Scandal favors horde and makes this BIAS MORE AND MORE VISIBLE.
The fun fact is, Alliance players still pays the same on a horde biased game.
There is also some bugs reported, likewise favored beloved horde NPC’s are more healty than Alliance NPC’s and horde players reviving inside Alliance boss room. How very interestingly, all these bugs FAVORS HORDE. Ohhhh, but not misunderstand, these all things are just a bad coincidence and in fact Blizzard not favors horde!
A clear horde biased 15th Anni. Special event we have. Under such huge faction imbalance… Blizzard’s Horde favoritism… Overwhelming…
Oh Dear, you sound like a spoiled brat running around a house in rage, forbidden to do the favourite thing.
Of course, I am not a native and do make mistakes. I accept them including criticism, some other clearly don’t. Taking my post sentence by sentence and laughing about my English only expresses arrogance and disrespect and obviously lack of comprehension and Big-Picture thinking. Obviously, I brought things to the topic because there is more than KR to tell if blizzard favoured one faction over the other.
And this?
I don’t what made so exciting, perhaps your frustration hit the top level. Regardless, this is the typical alliance player behaviour on BG. Not only does it happen when things go wrong, it also happens at the beginning and in the middle of the game. Try to do the content in right way, e.g. when you want to gather group of players to destroy strategic points or share a plan to rush including who are in defence or in attack, try that and you get exactly this kind of answer like yours.
Using violence when you lost a discussion neither helps to keep community civil nor a mature behavior.
Now please show me how and where do I laugh about your english, which is very close to my english knowledge?
I was simply, good hearthedly, trying to pass linguistic barriers to understand your arguments better but it is regrettable to note that you are not so very friendly and hostile to the others.
Do you want to know why exatly I am laughing? I am also reading us forums and I am laughing everytime when horde players comes this forums and typing %30. This doesn’t expresses my
I am stricly recommending to you to improve your arguments rather than insulting the people that you don’t even meet in your real life. Now if you have something to say about the topic which is WoW 15th Anni. horde biased special event The Korrak’s Scandal, I will be pleased to hear yours and other horde players counter arguments.
Devs? Pssssst!!! Don’t disturbe them!!! They are very busy to find the ways how they will nerf alliance racials to create more and more faction imbalance.
but all this is a different story and racial / races has nothing to do with that. Obviously, doing PvP is not just about turning WM on and “do PvP”, which seems to be the case. There are several things to consider. If you don’t do that, you most likely fail. Perhaps hordes are more into classes they play, perhaps they study more and that’s why they seem to be more “pro”. Well, everyone becomes “pro” or master by studying a subject. But again this is NOTHING TO DO with Blizzard favouring one faction over the other. And from top of my head, the quest with the reward I mentioned is AOO (Against Overwhelming Odds). Hordes by doing WPvP had only a 10% bonus, the alliance had 30% + a piece of gear of raid level.
