Kul'thirans and vrykul

Its not really a major discussion, but i couldnt find out about it when googling it.

But for quite a while now we noticed some Kul’thirans were much larger than others. when waiting for the islands expedition queue in boralus i noticed 2 females walking together. One normal human model and one kul’thiran model. The size difference is huge when you see them next to eachother.

So that made me think, the drust are pretty much extinct except for the thornspeaker leader. But during the drust’var questline with inquisitior cleardawn it is said that not all drust were hostile to the new settlers. This includes the thornspeakers, but surely not all of them were thornspeakers.

So why did they go extinct, surely they had members of both genders that survived that could continue their bloodline. But yet we only see one drust remaining chilling in his bear form.

What happened to the others? I don’t think they gotten killed by the humans because the thornspeakers were pretty friendly with them and even teached their ways.

Does this imply vrykuls actually bred with the kulthiran settlers, resulting in buff tall humans we see walking around hile normal sized humans being there as well?

When i see the kulthiran males, they seem to have some ruggedness and facial features that vrykul also have.

Did this actually happen or am i just imagining things? Because all other vrykuls seem to look down on humans. But thornspeakers seem to be different from that, so it could be possible

Not all of them were hostile, that’s right. How interesting, it seems that history is more complex than expected. Gorak Tul must have really been a disgusting warmonger if some of his people willingly turned against him and joined Lord Arom Waycrest and the Kul Tirans.

So why did they go extinct, surely they had members of both genders that survived that could continue their bloodline.

Gorak Tul and his Drust were all killed by Arom and his forces. They gave them no other choice. If instead of blindly attacking the Kul Tirans merely for settling near them, they had employed diplomacy, history would have changed. I am not sure if those who defied Gorak Tul met the same fate, but I strongly doubt it, because as you said Ulfar remains friendly towards the Kul Tirans, even attending to the moment when Dorian built the new ship and Brother Pike blessed it with the mystical power of the tides.

However you’re wrong. Ion already stated that playable Kul Tirans are not intended to be a separate race, they are simply variants on Kul Tirans made because Blizzard wanted bigger and smaller models to fit the various NPC roles and add more flavor to Kul Tiran society. They are not biologically different from other humans.

If I had to guess from a meta perspective, the large size of the Kul Tirans is probably more likely to be the result of a decision made by the art department in order for them to stand out and be noticeable; as opposed to some secret storyline originally concocted by WoW’s writers before the Kul Tirans were even put on the drawing board.

Compare the Large, Normal and Skinny Kul Tiran male NPC models. Their figures are overblown as if they stepped right out of a stylized cartoon. This is extremely common in character design.

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Ah thanks, thats kind of dissappointing. It would have been interesting of some kulthirans had some vrkul heritage.

It would explain kulthirans love for the sea, just as vrykuls seem to like the sea. Them adapting to eachother and all

It’s already explained why the Kul Tirans are a sea-faring people. They were Gilnean colonists who left their kin in search of adventure and glory.

Yes but just because you settle somewhere does not mean you will turn out to be nval super power.simple transport ships are the best, especially when its so close by. After all kulthiras only drifted away recently during the cataclysm. Superior naval power is not really the main concern of new settlements that struggle hard with hostile natives on land. The naval focus most likely happened after gorak’tul was dealt with by arom and people could develop the nation peacefully without any inland enemies.

So it would not be that unthinkable if vrykul mixed with humans their seafaring spirit got adapted as well. Alas as you said earlier if its confirmed kulthiran models size have nothing to do with inter breeding then that point doesnt sail anyway. But if they were intermingled it could have used that as a sign that both cultures mixed

Actually the Chronicles Volume III retcon that.

I am glad that the playable Kul Tirans don’t have Vrykul ancestry. They were bloodthirsty barbarians who belong in the grave.

Every human has Vrykul ancestry. The original humans were born to Vrykul parents in Northrend.

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To add on to this point, the vrykul started to have “deformed” children (humans). King Ymiron (the one who joins the LK), believing the Titans had abandoned them, and ordered the humans to be killed. The Vrykul who refused to do so sent their children to Tyr’s tomb

Edit: Titan keepers, not Titans

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May Ymiron and his misbegotten people rot in the abyss for the atrocities they planned to do.

Well, in the warrior campaign hall, he does suffer in the Maw of Souls, before you recruit him.

It’s not enough. A genocidal child murderer deserves much worse.

Are you willing to grant Daelin the same treatment?

Humanity is the Old Gods worst crime against Azeroth
The flesh-cursed Vyrkuls should have followed Ymiron’s orders… instead we have naked monkeys running around and causing trouble for the world
Let me quote Spellblade Aluriel, our hero:

" Annihilate!"

Why should I? Orcs are animals, they have no rights.

Humanity is the Old Gods worst crime against Azeroth
The flesh-cursed Vyrkuls should have followed Ymiron’s orders… instead we have naked monkeys running around and causing trouble for the world
Let me quote Spellblade Aluriel, our hero:

" Annihilate!"

Remind me, which race attempted to summon Sargeras into the world using Stormrage’s broken body as his host?

Orc
Gul’dan was an Orc - and it was Medivh, a Human who helped him and the greenskins to cross over to Azeroth (the original one, of course)

Then review the history of the race you’re playing as, because I seem to recall a major portion of the “oh so mighty and smart” Nightborne almost dooming themselves and the entire world with their reckless alliances.

Gul’dan did do it with the Grand Magistrix’s knowledge (granted she was under threat of destruction by the burning legion)

As did Medivh, but only under Sargeras’ mind control. As the Vrykuls tried to do with God-King Skovald. Interesting how Humans are one of the few races with the least interactions with the Demons. That certainly proves that “older” races are not necessarily wiser.

Do you speak about your kind, ugly Elf?