Lack of warriors utility should result in top dmg

hello folks.

i know blizz is not reading this and even if they will they will ignore it. but i have to get it out of my chest.

the lack of utility we bring combined with our low damage is unacceptable.

either give us lust. which would thematically fit the warrior class or give us top dmg. every other class brings the same dmg and way more utility than we do.

we should be at FDK levels of dmg and even beyond that cause we bring no combat rez.

it is just sad to see my beloved class be so dumpster tier. i know i am not the best player and make rotational mistakes, but i always got KSH as fury the last seasons. this season i didnt even try cause i couldnt stand getting declined for hours.

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They should give us Necrolords Conqueror’s Banner in the class tree.
That would make us a little more attractive for M+.
Add Glory and Lead by Example as a follow up talents.

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It would be so cool. Asking for that since beta. Gave a lot of feedback. Instead they hold on to this stupid spear that no one ever liked even when it worked in SL and after the CD nerf that came with DF its been a dead talent since. Just replace spear with banner but no. Theyre so incompetent.

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I agree, Champion’s Spear should not have been kept as a dps cooldown.
It should have been a PvP talent or a choice node coupled with Shockwave and deal way less damage.
It’s a cool ability from a utility perspective but as a dps cooldown it feels bad.

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I agree with you. They should delete the spear ability. I hate it so much…

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The decent damage increase to some abilities is a good start for dps warriors in m+. However, more will be needed to make dps warriors an actually non-pity-pick in m+ groups. The following things would not be overpowered in any way, but would be a good start:

  • Remove the GCD of Rallying Cry
  • Reduce the CD of Rallying Cry from 3 to 2 minutes
  • Give Rallying Cry an additional effect (e. g. 10% leech, or 10% avoidance etc.)
  • Remove the GCD of Sweeping Strikes
  • Give warrior a group-wide banner that buffs e. g. haste by 10% for e. g. 12 seconds, or buffs armor by 50% of the warrior’s armor, or buffs damage by 30% of the warrior’s attack power, or calls down a val’kyr, reviving a random ally within 20 yards)
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Sweeping strikes should be passive.
Thier are too many button bloat for arms it’s just begin to feel like you would ignore things like overpower procs in favor of clicking other abilities it feels kinda boring and all these set up after set up for arms is what i disliked about other classes in bfa or shadowlands, i don’t need to set up as warrior colossus smash bladestworm the classic compo wompo but you you ending set up after set up after setup by that time fury just click 1 macro all damage has been done same as frost dk same as elemental shanam same as mm hunter, arms is gated by these set ups is what make it unfun.

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I do not hate the idea of Sweeping Strikes having a choice node that gives it less power, but 100% passive uptime. Then it is a question of scenario, cost and choice between the two. Make one more focused on opportunity window; other on just flat stable output. One where taking the focused but sending it on CD is at best equally as powerful as the passive. Yet, on any fight with there not always being 2 targets, then taking the opportunity creator value above the passive.

Same idea as they are enforcing on Fury, where their ideal design seem to be that Odyn’s is an overall DPS loss in scenarios where that burst don’t excel (feels bad when your burst AoE ability isn’t the best pick for AoE, but hey, is what it is)

Setup is fun in the situation where you are building up for something with a plan. Too much setup is a lowkey downer when it is just an upkeep chore. In other words, it can very easily feel a bit much and clunky. So giving the player the option to adjust gameplay to what they themselves find the more fun is a clear win in my book.

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I believe since DF 2 target cleave is not as good as we thought it would be so being passive is justified other classes can cleave too so 75% is not that big of deal anymore but i agree something like 60% to cleave target passive is also justified they can tune that whatever they feel like it but i believe in gameplay first. I also believe they need to make our bleeds cleave similarly something like DF arms s3 set bonuse it was very nice i would like them to add that to slayer too. Basically i want less cds for arms and more micro cds make Arms 45-30sec cd class and it would be great for both pvp or pve :+1:t2: whenever you press colossus smash you turn into super Saiyan :+1:t3:

Blizzard never balanced DPS around having utility. It’s always about some random specialization popping up because of current balance imperfection.

I would love for necro banner to be brought back. that was so much fun in shadowlands. one of the best skills and thematically it fit so well for warriors.
the front line charging berserker equipping his banner and thus increasing fighting power of his allies.

man that would be dope. but since it is blizzard we are talking about they will die on the hill that warriors should have spear instead

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Spear sucks as hell

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I concur, I feel that a + 15-20% crit damage banner or Warcry for 30 seconds, that has optional nodes for 5-10% mastery or Crit or Haste would be excellent.

I’m not sure I want Heroism or Bloodlust, I’d like something a little more unique or desirable. Or I’d like rampage to act in a smilar fashion to the old WotLK rampage and provide a static buff for crit/hate/mastery/verse (whichever one) to give a 3-5% bump for 10 seconds after using rampage.

Or something similar to ancient aftershock rather than spear. A knockdown would be far more useful than a tether imo.

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please no hell no…

I’m keen to know why not?

fury warriors auto attack damage so weak

I’d happily switch Champion Spear with the banner any day of the week

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Because u just want to bandaid malfunction spec with some utility but we need complete overhaul… There is collision curse with some abilities nodes without creativity and space to make your own way … Cause u loose alot. Simply our best tier nodes (those should be strongest) are absolutely crap that other classes have stronger in first or second tier of nodes… And so and so
The point is we have so much foundational problems that needs to be solved but they are just not listening cause they know better… Blizzard will cry again when they loose player base that they will listen then cause they know they messed up… And definitely they are on the way to it… Players are mad I mean complete player base.
So I know what u tryin to get here in the hypothetical level ye why not… But not definitely now…when warriors are absolutely insanely crazy.

It’s what I’ve been saying too. Give people making groups a genuine choice, take a warrior who does a lot of damage, but you lose the extra utility like CR, decurse or lust or you take classes that do those things but you get less damage.

We should be on par with meta classes damage wise at the very minimum. We’re still in need of another buff, which I cant see us getting.

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