Leave Elemental shaman alone

Classes Shaman
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So… Blizzard decided to change Elemental Shaman mid-season, again… even though they had ample time to test it on the PTR.

Recent news about the upcoming nerfs to Elemental Shamans has left a sour taste. Players have already recrafted their gear, spent considerable effort preparing new guides, simulations, and builds, and used catalyst charges to acquire new BiS gear. In short, we’ve had to change nearly everything, including our playstyle, just five weeks into the expansion.

Since the recent rework, our single-target damage feels a bit underwhelming, especially with the Tempest build being more focused on AoE/Cleave scenarios. The upcoming Ascendance nerfs, intended to reduce AoE damage, will also impact our ST damage. Meanwhile, Farseer is receiving only insignificant buffs, while Tempest is being nerfed drastically simply because of its AoE/Cleave potential.
All of this might be fine if Blizzard weren’t overtuning other classes (like Boomkin), even though some of these classes are already outperforming most specs by a mile in various scenarios.

For the first time in years, playing Elemental Shaman felt good, but all these changes (like the FoL passive removal or the 150% → 100% nerf on Ascendance) are pushing people toward rerolling or even quitting the game. Oh, and let’s not forget about the Frost Shock “buff” that seems designed to force players into using it—despite the consistently negative feedback ever since.

Elemental shaman was always a black sheep and a forgotten child. Can we please make it shine at least for one expansion or leave it in not-too-bad state to enjoy? Can we have some fun like Resto or Enha player?

Raids with a lot of movement mechanics or M+ with a lot of variables are not training dummies and it’s not so easy to pump 15mln DPS like you would in Orgrimmar, standing still, avoiding nothing.

FoL change was straight up nerf - so we got some compensation in burst and dmg (3 minut Cooldown btw and it can’t be reduced) but then our compensation is getting nerfed as well.

As always, Blizzard detected some fun and decided to end it.
Meanwhile classes loved by Blizz dev’s are getting some juice, again!

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tbh its crazy that blizzard are hitting shamans so hard

i expected the nurf to ascendance to be coming and maybe tuning up our sustain so we dont completely drop off but nurfing ascendance and our sustain in just retarded

i dont know what shaman devs are thinking and maybe they havent played the game but shaman doesn’t out dps most/all class’s on packs without ascendance or a dre proc

honestly we finally hit s tier and are in a fantastic spot even after the LR nurfs and now they are gutting the class i can see us being c tier b tier at best - i see no reason why shamans couldn’t be good for an expansion/teir we are probably going to end up doing less dps then before the rework and we have less survivability that they didn’t supplement from losing fol

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I’m with you. The adjustments just reads unreasonable.

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I agree 100%.

They are changing our stats again, probably for the third time in a few weeks?
People have spent a lot of hours on new equipment, skills, rotations, etc. and then we have to spend more hours again.

I feel like I’m playing a beta and not an official product, and probably a lot of people stop playing because this, but wait blizzard introduced a new mount for $ so all its good.

Shame on you blizzard and #blizzard devs must go off

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I am pretty confident that the team that designs the classes, each one of them could have an addiction or some kind of disturbed personality(preferences, hidden secrets, guilty pleasures…), because most of the classes are getting hit by this. They seem to have much creativity which is good but the ways to play tends to be sick and bloated, without a flow trying to find in each patch something different.(Proof: They test a damn ptr for like 2 months and they come with several “tweaks” the next day of release).
I think they should hire some old school guys for this job and let the others fix their lives first.

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Reasons why we can’t be good:

  1. <Mages, Paladins, DKs and Druids exists>
    Unfortunately Ele shaman was never Blizzard’s favorite child, even though one of the main heroes (Thrall) is one! Maybe we will have our moment in the next expansion which will be more horde oriented?

Who knows, but right now I want people to talk and share their feedback to Blizzard so they can hear us and adjust changes like they did with Paladins (People from Pala discord were spamming forums and sharing their feedback thatnks to which Blizzard reverted some changes).

BRUDAS! SPEAK OUT AND DO IT LOUD! Let’s make Blizzard heed our call!

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The first time in my 10 years playing Ele Sham experience they made us useful and couldn’t live with it.
The only thing they had to do was to up farseer, but not kill the spec.
Now we have no utility (thanks to the deletion of the lighting bolt feature of decreasing CDs ) and no damage.
I quit the game.

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I do not like what blizzard is doing here, giving us amazing, and a bit overtuned changes. then makes us worse than we were before anniversary patch a week later, sure the new playstyle is a bit more fun, and we have a cd that feels good to press but we got jebaited so hard and had to reroll status enhchants etc just to end up gutted like a fish and i dissapprove, leave us alone pls.

From high mid tier → s tier → probably low b / d tier

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These nerfs are insane, Blizzard really has no love or support for Elemental Shaman players, nor do they have any idea how to balance the game. Other specs get to be FOTM for ages, not being touched at all whilst topping the logs. God forbid Elemental players do well (still not the best spec) in raids or keys.

I was planning on buying the 12 months subscription. Guess I’ll just run my sub down now and come back in Season 2. Such a pitty… Elemental felt really good this week.

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Elemental needed tuning, or a better rework.
This is unwarranted and a disgrace.

Long time ele player, and I’m used to being underpowered.
But thinking of quitting now due to being spat in the face like this.
Nice to time it with the 20 year anniversary.

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agree, the 2nd nerf is unwarranted, maybe a slightly adjustment to the dmg inside ascendance, with chainlightning, but your just going to ruin them outside it, cant believe 3 days and they’ve worked out how to tune that with that much changes.

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complete dogsh*t

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I am going to unsub if these changes hit live servers. It is evident that the QA team is non existent and devs are reacting to youtubers and twitch clips rather than work woth actual data. They clearly never ran a high key. If you’re gonna take +8’s as your balance reference that means you’re not doing your job well. I am sure if enough people voice their concerns and let ‘stakeholders’ know that they are gonna be losing money woth these changes, they will rethink this dumbass nerf.

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I was just about to get a 12-month subscription, but I’m thankful I didn’t. I’ll unsubscribe and return for Season 2, hoping Blizzard will finally show Elemental Shamans the respect they deserve. It’s quite disappointing, Blizzard.

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