You made the right decision. You have been falsely accused in public of lying to skip raiding with your supposed guild.
The only penance is a public apology. If they as humans cannot admit they are flawed and as such WILL be wrong on occasion, then they are not worth the time. Pride is the downfall of many.
First of all this depends whether you wanted to stay in the guild or leave. If you wanted to stay, you would have apologized them for not being able to participate in raid because you have been ill. You would have said, that judging by chat you also failed to make it clear enough that you were actually really ill and that you understand you don’t know eachothers well enough to know you can be trusted. Then you would have continued with guild being nice untill they would have some day felt absolutely crap for treating you the way they did back that day and they would apologize. It’s not bending over if no one is bending you, sometimes it’s just the act of checking weak spots from different angle. If you did not want to stay with the guild, you could have just said you feel they didn’t talk about you in very respective way when you were ill and that you don’t want to continue to be member of the guild because of that and then wish them well and leave.
This is actually a valid point. I thought telling them that I’m not feeling well shouldve been enough. Since its not even a concern to my boss irl what my leave for sickness is, I assumed that telling them “not feeling well” would be sufficient. So my original “not feeling well” was not enough, but after two days I gave one of the officers a proper explanation about my symptoms, since he accused me of being hungover. That wouldve been enough though, right? But you probably dont have enough context to judge that
It sounds to me your original reason was vague enough for them to start joking about it. You haven’t known eachothers that long yet for them to know better. I would have probably said in that situation more detailed info, for example : “I got fever and i am bed patient atm, i am sorry i cannot tank today”.
I think what you people had was miscommunicating. You broke social rule by demanding apology and that probably annoyed them a lot. They broke social rule for not apologizing when realizing you were actually ill, but it cannot be corrected with demanded apology unfortunately. Usually in situations like this if they get out without losing their faces they will apologize later on their own and that’s then a real apology. Don’t worry it too much and don’t cling into it, these things happen in life all the time!
First is this things are better handled in person on voice comms. Then you could express that you were geniunely sick and tell them that you took what they said badly. From there you could have more easily seen if it was miscommunication or them being uncaring.
Second is its probably best not to overanalyse this. Chalk it up to experience, think how it could be handled better next time and move on. Put yourself in the other persons shoes. How would you have felt having to make a public apology to a group over someone you’ve known for a short time?
after playing wow for well ages, I have realiced that if someone mocks you, you better off leaving or kick them if you have the power to do so.
I have once been in a guild my self where I told them 2weeks in advance that I wont make it in time for the raid, they knew it, and I was maby 30 mins late, the GM of the guild whispered me telling me I was a traitor for not showing up and now I can not come on the run, even though they where doing a 25 man run and where only 22 or so lol.
well I ended up talking to that GM for 30 mins, explaining to him what an idiot he was, and maby he should learn to read and he would have noticed I had told them ages ago, I was not even signed up lol.
2 days later I left the guild, I have never felt better after that.
This character is my bank alt… been using it since Vanilla to post on the forums. Seeing in my early days my reason to visit the forums was to conduct trading business.
Maybe it was the OP’s main one time or some other reason. Frankly, does it matter?
yes, posting on my main would make tracking down the guild I’m talking about very easy - I do not want that to happen.
These are two pretty solid points of advice. Though the last question on the second part is something I would answer with “if, in this scenario, I was in the GMs shoes, I would see my mistake, accept it, and humbly apologize in public” - since this would be the right thing to do for me personally. But I still get your point there
It doesnt sit well with me that I have to be more specific about my illness to a random stranger - being questioned about the legitimacy of my sickness is not something I did expect. Its still hard to understand why they would even start with that in the first place - just because we dont know eachother? I dont know
I can get behind this after so many people confirmed this: asking for an apology is a no-go. Even though I wasnt trying to make them lose face but more regain mine (since they denounced and mocked me publicly), I do agree that I couldve communicated that better. Same pattern as others though: just let it rest until it resolves itself (if I understood that correctly). I will do that in the future.
Thank you all for your input, it was very helpful and insightful. I will reflect about my course of action from today and will adjust accordingly. I hoped to feel better by getting confirmations, since the situation seemed very one-dimensional to me, but many, different people suggested otherwise. I still feel better though, since I feel like I have a better understanding of the situation and will be able to handle it with more skill next time
Probably they were teasing you about being hungover, the way boys and young men might do in a harsh but friendly way, and you took it like an accusation. Then one thing lead to another, there was prestige on both sides and it all went south. Does it sound likely?
I’m sorry about the mockery, that’s no fun but a guild that mocks a person for being sick is just as silly as looking for a confirmation about you making the right decision, in short, if you’re so fragile you better off without them.
The guild is one of the very few capable guilds on my realm and it will be very difficult to find a similar one even on other realms at this point.
You cared more about getting an apology and your ego than your progression so suffer the consequences.
Forced apology is not an apology~ you are a politician? Thats very politician thing
“I demand apology! We will meet in court!”
They didn’t believe you~ they are not your friends. They mocked you a little~ they are guys. Typical behaviour of random strangers that know each other at semi-minimum level. Expose yourself and they will bite like animals they are
They didn’t invite you while they had spot for you and called you traitor and you waited 2 days to leave the guild? Maby you should’ve left the guild right after that talk, maby you shouldn’t have waited
yeah I know, but I was not actualy playing for 2 days eighter lol, and I wanted to se if that moron had more to say, and I was supriced I didnt get kicked considering that GM did threaten people whit kicks for realy stopid things, and only reason I even stayed was becuse I had a few friends there at that point.