Legacy Loot not working properly

Gameplay Transmogrification
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Hello,

I’ve done some googling/searching online for information on this topic but can only find a few bits here and there that haven’t got much attention.

Legacy loot is not working for a number of dungeons and raids.

I’ll break down what isn’t working from my own experience and explain what exactly the problem is for clarification and hope that others can use this thread to make Blizzard aware and hopefully fix this.

Dungeons with issues I have encountered (can remember specifically)

Halls of Stone: Tribunal of Ages - Problem? Loot is filtered to class and spec. You’re unable to loot any other type of loot (Loot type: Chest)

The Violet Hold (WOTLK): All bosses - Problem? Loot is filtered to class and spec. You’re unable to loot any other type of loot (Loot type: Boss’ Corpse)

Trial of the Champion: Grand Champions, Eadric the Pure & Argent Confessor Paletress - Problem? Loot is filtered to class and spec. You’re unable to loot any other type of loot (Loot type: Chest)

Halls of Reflection: Escape from Arthas - Problem? Loot is filtered to class and spec. You’re unable to loot any other type of loot (Loot type: Chest)

Throne of Tides: Ozumat - Problem? Loot is filtered to class and spec. You’re unable to loot any other type of loot (Loot type: Chest)

Raids

Ulduar: Flame Leviathan - Problem? Hard mode loot no longer drops. Enabling the 4 towers by talking to the NPC does not work. Theory behind problem? This boss has been changed where you no longer receive a chest for HM loot only and regular loot from the corpse. It seems the loot Flame Leviathan dropped from his corpse now only drops from the chest. (Loot type: Chest)

Ulduar XT-002 - Problem? Hard mode loot no longer drops. Enabling Hard mode by killing his heart during the intermission phase should allow you to loot HM loot. XT is unfortunately not dropping HM loot. Theory behind problem? Similar to Flame Leviathon EXCEPT for a number of weeks in 8.0.1 you were able to loot both the corpse AND the chest thus getting more loot than normal. Unfortunately both sources dropped normal loot only. Recently the chest has been disabled and is no longer lootable (if memory serves maybe 3 resets ago) and now you can only loot XT’s corpse. Still only normal mode loot from 10 and 25m. (Loot type: Chest/corpse and unannounced recent change to no longer being able to loot the chest)

Ulduar Yogg-Saron - Problem? Hard mode loot no longer dropping in 8.0.1. Enabling Hard mode by leaving all 4 keepers up is not allowing transmogrification specific loot to drop. The mount drops from what I’m aware, so can the tentacle trinket if memory serves, but not the rest of the HM loot table. This boss use to be looted via the corpse and a HM specific chest, now its all done via a chest. It seems like the other bosses mentioned above that these are all having the same issues. (Loot type: Chest)

Note: I have not ran Assembly of Council so cannot confirm if this is happening there, I assume it probably is. Nor do I run General Vezax HM (Because I already had all transmog pre patch). I’ll also add unchanged bosses such as Hodir, Thorim, Freya etc still have seperate loot chests and still drop HM loot.

I’ll also add the chests in Icecrown seem to work fine, as do they in Trial of the Crusade etc.

With regards to how I discovered theses well, it was simple frustration at loot not dropping and after running it so many times I began to realise a pattern with the drops, then the spec and once I saw that I began running with a certain spec selected and then with my alts (Shaman and Druid mostly as alts with Warrior as Main) and seeing what wouldn’t drop for my Warrior now dropping for my Shaman with the correct loot eligibility and spec selected (and of course nothing for Warrior ie: Plate, 2h Swords etc no longer dropping).

I really hope people can see this thread, especially someone who can bring this attention to Blizzard as most of my enjoyment right now comes from running transmogrification runs, mount runs etc and this is making me quite unhappy being unable to complete some of my collections.

Please make others aware and if you’ve encountered other problems please post them here, I certainly don’t think I know of every problem with WOTLK loot but I think I’ve found most.

P.S. I’ve farmed most of the mog from Vanilla and TBC and haven’t had any issues from there, will report on Cata and further as I progress with my farming. I’d also like to point out to anyone that thinks of it. I have used the in game report feature a few times, but I’m also only able to type a certain number of characters per report which limits what I can say.

Thanks

EDIT: I’ve since been farming Cata dungeons and have found Ozumat in Throne of Tides to be bugged regarding loot. Currently it’s only giving players loot from the chest that the class is eligible for.

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I’ve had similar issues in Halls of Stone. After having completed the boss fight 5 times, and always getting two of the same bracers, I realized that the chest drop depended on my loot specialization, and as soon as I changed it the item I wanted dropped.

Forced personal loot spec is really bad when you’re trying to farm transmog, seeing as a Warrior won’t be able to loot daggers, ranged weapons and staves, despite being able to equip them and thus add them to his/her collection.

I hope we can get this fixed, so that we don’t need several different classes just to obtain all the transmog your main class equip.

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Ulduar has had it’s hard mode loot added to a chest.
FL: one chest
Razor: N/A
Ignis: N/A
XT: lootable corpse
Iron Assembly: can’t recall, think one chest
Algalon: N/A
Kologarn: N/A
Auriaya: N/A
Hodir: two chests
Thorim: two chests
Freya: two chests
Mimiron: two chests
General Vezax: one chest
Yogg-saron: one chest

Confirmed bonus loot gains last 4 weeks: Assembly, Hodir, Thorim, Freya, Mimiron

Characters used for past 3 lockouts and current lockout:
Rogue x4
DH x3
Warrior x2
Priest x3
Hunter x2

Edit: this obviously means I’ve run Ulduar 14 times in the past 4 lockouts including this one

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Hi thanks for the post.

Could you confirm if you have received any of the Hard mode loot from the problem bosses I have listed in my OP. From your post it seems you haven’t, but I’d just like to be clear :slight_smile:

Thanks

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Only one I can confirm is the Assembly, and the 4 keepers but you already knew that. Should anything change I’ll let you know.

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Loot from Ozumat in Throne of Tides is also bugged.

Currently it’s only giving players loot from the chest that the class is eligible for. I ran it many times on Warrior only receiving Warrior eligible loot. I then ran it on my Druid and only received Druid eligible loot.

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Ulduar loot still broken

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Since 8.1 there has been some changes to Legacy Loot.

I’ve since ran Halls of Reflection on my Hunter after levelling it up. After the final boss encounter I was able to loot the chest receiving non class eligible items (specifically int weapon, cloth wearing item that I remember specifically). I’m not saying the chest has been fixed, I didn’t run it enough times, but it sure does look like it has so far, unfortunately having farmed everything I won’t be able to confirm this any further.

Unfortunately the ship you need to board to reach the chest is currently broken in 8.1 and goes far to high in the air so the only way to get on the boat is to jump early just as it moves or check your mailbox after leaving the dungeon. You really couldn’t make this stuff up :joy:

ULDUAR LOOT IS STILL BROKEN

8.1 once again made another change to loot in Ulduar. Killing XT002 now gives an absurd amount of gold from its corpse (700g+) and the cache of toys (chest) is now lootable again, unfortunately its only ever given me approx 34 gold and nothing else.

Yogg Saron now drops the tentacle trinket again for keeping the keepers up, for a while it wasn’t dropping. The +1 loot table still does not drop at all and is currently BROKEN and still not dropping any Hard mode loot

Flame Leviathan hasn’t changed and is still broken - currently not dropping any HM loot despite enabling HM by talking to the Keeper at the entrance.

Off topic: Could we get a change to the XT 002 encounter? Enabling Hard Mode and not accidentally killing the heart inc the boss is becoming much harder with gear scaling - even when naked! If we get XT’s health less than what the heart has the boss will instantly die once the heart is destroyed.

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How can we get this to have better visibility, even to have someone from Blizzard to acknowledge that this is an issue?

I’ve personally accumulated days running Ulduar trying to get particular drops from hard mode and I’ve finally paused my runs after reading this.

This needs to be made aware to the entire community cause it can cause people to waste their time.

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I noticed your thread was closed regarding this. The problem with trying to report it as a bug in game as the blue in your thread stated (I have tried a few times over the last few months) is that there is a character word limit and not enough space to explain the problem entirely.

To the Blues reading this please understand locking threads like this rather than passing feedback on isn’t workable solution when we don’t have the proper means to do it via bug reporting. I have tried to recite my ticket to as few words as possible but can never explain the problem for someone to understand within the word limit.

Expecting other players like me or ones that have posted to go through the same bad experience before finding out it doesn’t drop is not a good experience or good game play. The purpose of this thread isn’t only to pass the feedback onto Blizzard, but to warn other players trying to get certain transmog from Ulduar to stop, as it doesn’t drop and will not drop until it is fixed.

It’s very frustrating and after seeing a thread quickly locked without really taking into consideration the depth of the problem makes me feel nobody that can make a difference really cares.

Hopefully the reason for your thread being locked was due to this one already existing.

Edit: I have sent another bug report in game and provided a link to this thread, I hope someone looks at it but there isn’t a lot I can do myself :frowning:

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I feel like the in-game reporting tool is simply not the way to go with this.

With cough 2 million subscribers cough there is probably still a huge number of reports coming in and probably the only way to handle them, if any is to automatically sort the tickets based on word occurrence and use statistics to determine the priorities.

What we’re talking about here is indeed an issue for a niche group of players so I don’t see how this can statistically have priority.

At the same time this is a regression introduced by Blizzard to something that was OK for years.

I would start creating in-game tickets but even that can be easily disqualified with a simple argument, RNG.

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Still not working for me on (at least)

  • Flame Leviathan
  • Hodir
  • Vezax

Anyone ever got the mount in Ulduar after the changes?

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Hi, yeah the mount has been confirmed to still be dropping.

It’s just the hard mode loot from a number of bosses that aren’t currently dropping unfortunately as some of the mogs are unique and only possible to get from them

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Agree. seems like I’ve been wasting my time too, though only partly. I have run Ulduar on multiple toons and have got some transmogs, but obviously this means I could have missed out on some. I had not started looking at a spesific list yet, as I first decided to run it pr. armor type first(without knowing what potential loot there is), then target spesific items.

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So just to update on what has happened since my last post.

The popular collection addon “Allthethings” has been updated and has removed the hard mode loot that doesn’t drop with the flavour text “With 8.0 Blizzard’s Legacy Loot Implementation for Ulduar broke a number of Hard Mode loot tables”

I’m not sure where they got the information from, but its removed loot from the bosses specifically mentioned in this thread here. You can find the info on their GitHub page under Feb 16th changes made.

Upon further looking at the in game loot tab in Ulduar it seems some of the items have now been removed that dropped, and those Hard Mode items still showing, are only there because they drop via Timewalking. (2h Sword from XT002 and the plate chest from this boss as an example).

I am extremely disappointed that instead of this being fixed it has been brushed under the carpet with unique transmogs being permanently removed from the game :frowning:

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Can’t currently verify this ingame, but what you’re saying is that some of the loot has been changed to only drop on Timewalking and some loot has been completely removed?

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No, you’ve misunderstood me. There has been no change to the loot drops from Timewalking, or regular Ulduar difficulty.

What I posted was to inform anyone looking for information that as of writing the Hard Mode loot from certain bosses in Ulduar have been removed from the in game loot table (Shift+J), and most likely will never be obtainable in the future as this change is new.

However, the loot drop table for Timewalking has always contained some items that were only possible to obtain via completing the Hard Mode objectives, so whilst you can no longer obtain the transmogs via regular Ulduar Hard Modes, some of the Hard Mode only unique transmogs (not all) can still be obtained via Timewalking.

TLDR: No changes, however Timewalking has always dropped some Hard Mode loot, and those that drop via Timewalking are now the only way to obtain the transmogs.

In game hold Shift + press J and you can via what exactly drops from each boss.

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This blows. Period.

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so… hard mode items from ulduar can now only be got from timewalking? another FU to transmoggers and collectors :frowning: even more so with it being (apparently) a stealth change :frowning:

and saying they are still in game is missing the point. we would have been farming these pieces at our ease in a lvl 80 instance. if the TW BT run was anything to go by, ulduar TW will not be fun and i cant be bothered to go through the pain of lfg for transmog and im sure a lot of others will not either.

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