Legacy raid Mythic mounts + legacy raid mythic lockout needs to be changed

Hi all,

  1. The actual drop chance of these mounts:

Once the Mythic raid goes into legacy mode, the mounts that drop from final bosses like Jailer and Sylvanas become 1%… BUT many people are not aware of the fact that even that 1% is divided by the number of players in the raid (usually 20), making this actually 1 in 2000 chance drop.

This 1-2000 chance is the same chance as getting the Pandaria world boss mount before the Dragonflight buff, but 10x worse since you could farm those bosses in the open world with lvl 30+ alts. For these raids you need to have a max lvl character and you have to organize the group + clear all the bosses. So basically 45 min of work on a max lvl well geared character per week just to have a chance at 1 in 2000 drop, pretty much miserable.

I am fully aware that we will be able to solo these raids in the future, but that means that we have to wait 3-5 year minimal just so we can finally have that 1% drop chance.

Solution:

Makes these mounts personal loot like G.M.O.D, this means that every single player in the raid has a chance to obtain the mount, the drop chance remains 1%, and you can’t trade the mounts.

  1. The horrible mythic lockout problem:

Mythic raids have a special lockout system. Once you enter a mythic raid and kill a boss with a certain group, you can’t join any other groups. While this might be okay while the mythic raid is current, there is literally no point in keeping this lockout system once it goes to legacy mode. I personally don’t see any benefits, only negatives.

Solution:

Make the mythic lockout same as normal/heroic.

I think you are mistaken here.

Mythic mounts are always personal loot. Even during Cutting Edge content that the drop chance is 2 per raid, it is still personal loot.

That means that the chance to get one of them from the PREVIOUS expansion (like sylvanas/jailer) is 1% FOR EACH PERSON. The drop chance is not divided, since it is NOT group loot.

I agree with you, as long as it is not current content. During current content, making the lockouts like normal/heroic would just kill any form of mythic raiding (since everyone could just take a save from any boss from someone else).

As long as it is not current content I 100% support you. Although I think that they have not changed that yet due to technical reasons.

After speaking with a lot of people on the achievement/mount collecting discords and after running these raids hundreds of times myself i am 99% sure that these mounts are not personal loot.

A personal loot mount gets pushed directly into your inventory like G.M.O.D, while Jailer and Sylvanas mounts you loot of the boss/chest itself.

Also i never heard or saw more than 1 mount per raid, if it was truly personal, more than 1 mount would drop per raid.

Well then you either have to do the raids when they’re current or wait 6 years until they’re fully soloable.

Same could be said about Invincible or Deathwing mounts. You just need to accept that SL is pretty recent content.

Accepting things as they are is not really productive. Just because historically we had to wait 3-5 years to farm these mounts that doesn’t mean it has to stay that way.

World bosses were 1 in 2000 and we had to accept that fact since MoP (for almost 10 years), but they buffed them to 1-2% and everybody is a lot happier now.

I am not asking for these mounts to be given out like candy, i am still proposing to keep them 1%… BUT make them personal loot.

Not all mythic raiders will admit it but a lot of them will be furious if people started farming those mounts at 1% drop rates as soon as the next expansion drops.

If we listened to people like that we would get nowhere, not just in game but in real life.

Many people were extremely mad when the world bosses were buffed to 1-2%, many people were mad when they started putting TCG mount/pets/toys on twitch drops.

At the end, i think many more people benefited from those changes, so we should ignore them and move on and make the game better.

Again, i am just asking for these mounts to be personal loot but remain 1%. That doesn’t make them trivial, it can take you still weeks/months or years to get them. The 1 in 2000 chance just makes it pointless and gatekept for years to come.

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