Would there be a possibility to let legendary reagents drop in 10man ? I will be raiding as a 10man group in wotlk and knowing that we will never have the chance of getting a legendary kind of sucks. I personally wouldn’t mind it if they reduced the drop chance by a lot in 10 man oppose to the 25man droprate. All I want is there to be a possibility to get it in 10man also.
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They have, they’ve reduced the drop rate to 0%.
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Yeah I think that both raid sizes should have a shot at getting these items. Its hard knowing you can never get Valanir or Shadowmourne etc
Dont worry, there will be plenty people doing 25-man not getting them either.
They are supposed to be rare, not a Legion legendary everybody gets sooner or later.
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That is true but it sucks knowing that you don’t even have a shot at it.
And thats exactly how its supposed to be.
If you want to get your legendaries in 10 man, just wait for cata classic. 
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Hmm I suppose so, however I’d argue with changes they’re already making the “way it’s supposed to be” argument kind of falls apart ya know?
So you want a 10-man legendary? Seems fair to make the easy version not be as good as the 25-man one right?
I’d argue with calling 10 man “easy version”, but even with that logic/argument Blizzard can make it fair. Fragment of Val’anyr and Shadowfrost Shard drop from 25 HC and non HC version, with different droprate depending on difficulty. Blizzard can make both ingredients drop from 10 man HC version, with droprate from 25 non HC version, while keeping 10 man normal without drops at all.
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But why not make a 10-man version if you’re gonna make them drop in the 10-man versions? You could have the same system, they drop on HC and normal with reduced rates. Scale the stats to 10-man standards since all the other gear that drops is scaled differently. You’d still have a legendary. It wouldn’t be the exact same one, but if your limit is 10-mans due to time or whatever the reason might be, then whats wrong with having a lesser version of the legendary?
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Why not use this as an incentive to raid 25man? It’s almost as if that was the reason to begin with.
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People hates cata then comes to forum asks for cata content in wotlk. I love you all.
Its been a trend since the release of Classic. Either people want dates for whatever or the next expansions feature.
It goes against the Legendary concept. A Legendary item should require effort to get, be rare and require the very endgame.
Why put a Legendary item out there that’s worse than a Heroic 25-man Epic item? What makes it Legendary? Or is it only about being able to say that you have a Legendary, even if its not even good and everybody else has one aswell? Sort of what happened with Epics as we progressed further into modern WoW.
Hate to say it, but how can a colour fool people like that. Back in 2005 people were laughed at for wearing good Blues by people who were blinded by the Epic colour, and now people want easy-to-obtain sub-optimal Legendarys so they can say they have one …
How about a Legendary we get from dailys so solo people can get one aswell? Sure its useless, but its orange…
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…Ah yes, Legion flashbacks. I actually enjoyed Legion, but not for the free-legendaries reason.
Just to clarify: I am not advocating for any of the WotLK legendary items from 10 man. As a mage, I’m not eligible for any of them.
But since You said that it would be “fair” for the “easy” version to have different kind of item, I wanted to make a counterargument, that 10 man heroic version is more difficult than 25 normal, so I think it would still be fair for 10 man HC to drop this ingredients at the rate of 25 non HC. If memory serves me well, 10 man HC items have higher ilevel than 25man normal items, so it fits the gear progression scheme.
That could make sense. But I’d rather not have them change that. I’m just afraid they’ll change too much eventually.
If someone wants a legendary, why not just do 25mans? The normals are indeed easy and puggable (could be e.g. a 10man guild that also hosts 25man pugs).
I agree, I don’t think there should be a lesser 10-man legendary. All I’m saying is if there were a legendary you could get from 10-mans, it should be worse than the proper one and that you shouldn’t be able to obtain the proper one without doing the proper content for it.
I mean that is kind of the point of legendary items. They are meant to be very rare and not for everybody. It only makes sense that they are exclusive to the highest level of group content.
If everyone is rich, no one is
I don’t think that makes sense. It’s an end game fantasy item that most players won’t get, so making it so that 10 man raids can still aspire to that is what matters imo. They’re both end game content and even different versions of the same end game content. From a design perspective I don’t agree with the idea that a legendary item should be completely locked to one raid type, you could get different legendary versions and so on. I’m not asking for them to make the change, but I think it would be a good change to make. It’s an improvement.