People loved Legion and still remember it fondly to this day.
There are good reasons for this: it had great zones and storylines with mainly Suramar, a constant flow of new content, iconic themes and characters, decent stakes, and a nice atmosphere.
But there is no denying that it introduced many game design philosophies that have been very harmful to WoW as a whole, and have continued to make the game worse even after it was over:
The AP grind
Borrowed power systems
Titanforging
RNG legendaries
Heavily time gated content
The player character being the chosen one
The removal of PvP vendors for some reason
Class homogenization and oversimplification
Most of what everyone disliked about BFA & SL was the direct result of the Legion approach to game design. These two expansions were very much Legionâs offspring. They share its core DNA, and thatâs not a good thing.
Dragonflight
Dragonflight wonât be remembered very fondly, even though it basically saved the game by making a lot of very good decisions when it comes to game design.
The word âevergreenâ has become quite trendy these past few months, even making an appearance at Blizzcon, and to me, it embodies what we should remember Dragonflight for.
Dragonflight is not perfect. For many, itâs not enjoyable right now: the content is meh, the lore is meh, thereâs not a lot of exciting stuff about it - whereas this was Legionâs strength.
ButâŚ
Dragonflight got rid of the mandatory chores.
Dragonflight got rid of borrowed power systems.
Dragonflight made gearing more deterministic.
Dragonflight finally split PvE and PvP.
Dragonflight introduced permanent content with Dragonflying and the Trading Post.
Dragonflight brought back many great class spells and abilities.
Legion was fun in the moment, awful in the long run.
Dragonflight is the opposite. Dragonflight is the anti-Legion.
Legion is one of the best expansions overall idc about the rollout that made you guys suffer back then . right now if you go & play legion youâll have an amazing time but dragonflight will be remembered as the empty lore killing boring expansion with the worst raids(thematically), ugliest cosmetics, awful storyline & worst open world content in the gameâs history
Dragonflight killed mmo part of the WoW
all of these things were fun & engaging = what a game should give
dragonflight is boring and bland . legion saga at least made people enjoy the story. that is more important than accuracy since this is a game and not a book. dragonflight killed wowâs lore being a good part of the game .
Yeah okay, youâre just arguing in very bad faith right now.
Take a look at the like/dislike ratio on that cinematic to see how âexcitingâ it was for the community.
Yes, Fyrakk is lame, but it doesnât matter because he wasnât built up for decades, and he had barely any impact on the story.
Unlike the Jailer, Fyrakk isnât behind every event in the History of Warcraft.
Fyrakk is just some fire dude who wanted to burn stuff. Lame, forgettable, but not damaging to the integrity of the WarCraft lore like the lame death of Nâzoth or the very existence of the Shadowlands.
yes thatâs why this is the worst expansion. damages can be repaired but if you make people lose interest in wow , thatâs when lore actually dies not after some controversial choices. nobody cares about wow lore anymore except the loreheads , back then every wow player knew at least what theyâre doing in the story. i didnât play legion when it was out but even i knew what was going on because it was interesting.
it will be hard to get people excited about wow lore again after this mess.
being angry at the lore choices is better than losing interest
I donât raid, therefore, I donât talk about raids.
You didnât play Legion. Why do you talk about it?
I lost interest in the lore after being angry at how bad it was.
Thereâs no âfixingâ what these 3 expansions did to the lore. The mistakes are too big.
i did play it afterwards and have done many things in legion. like i said, rollout issues that you constantly complain are not important after an expansion ends. the legacy on the other hand continues
no youâre still interested in whatâs going on i see you comment on df lore that means you keep checking it. many people stopped caring about it after realising how bad it is with almost zero exciting things happening after 3 back to back expanions with huge storylines. good or bad.
Yeah, absolutely not. Shadowlands is the worst expansion for lore, and itâs not even a contest. Shadowlands ruined the Lich King, turned the entire concept of death into a joke, and had one of the worst villains in gaming history. The DF lore may not be very interesting but it hasnât actively ruined anything, and itâs given us an excellent antagonist in terms of Iridikron.
how many people do you see talking about iridikron and how many were there talking about SL lore ? i legit never see any story talks about wow like i used to. people are losing interest thatâs worse than them being mad
It ruined way more than just the lich king, pretty much every villain we have had can be trassed back to the Jailor, even Sargeras and the burning Legion.
No. You didnât experience the systems back when they were current. They have been removed. You have not experienced Legion, youâve just quested in the Legion zones.
You saying that âyou played Legionâ is the same as if I said that I know how TBC raiding was because I cleared the Black Temple last week on my retail character.
Itâs complete nonsense.
when you search ''dragonflight lore ââ on youtube you only see a handful of channels talking about it and when you search ââshadowlands loreââ you can clearly see there were many more. they didnât even bother talking about DF lore which is the worst thing that can happen to a story
? i know every piece of lore why the hell should i care about how easy was it to obtain artifacts or not when weâre talking about lore here . i experienced every existing legion system including invasions
pretty much carrying it all by himself with the other guy that i forgot now
he has multiple videos on shadowlands and none for dragonflight , see my point ?
The thread is about the expansion as a whole.
Seeing as you have not played through it, and have no idea how it actually was, your opinion is quite irrelevant.