Just let them, there is no point.
They like their easy wins as premades and don’t want to face horde premades in AV. It’s that simple. Funny though, they have so many crapy premades lately that they do not even win that much anymore.
No amount of logic works on tough nuts as they think they are entitled to it by “suffering in P2” (on their server - not every server was like that). While enabling premades in AV, or at least group queue (5 man) would definitely make playing more enjoyable for a lot of players (if not majority).
I do agree that it’s not an exploit though, noone can argue that.
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horde has defnedly bigger playerbase. But av is always 40vs40.
People only resort to insults, if they cant make a point.
It clearly means you are out of ammunition.
Giving horde the option to premade doesnt put you to an disadvantage, the horde still has a huge drawback and thise are longer queues.
AV was not intended to be premaded hence it is an exploit. Reintroducing a premade button for both factions is an easy solution and the most fair. Allies can still premade and have instant queues and horde, they will still have the drawback you so lovely want to point out and that is longer queues.
At this point you better say you are trolling, trust me even if it’s not true
It does put them at an “disadvantage” though. They would win way, way, less.
That is the only reason why you see so many allies advocating against it.
nah, no trolling. Just pointing flaws in your arguement.
Their buttholes are still sore after phase 2, i cant believe they are so salty they choose to look beyond flaws and inconsistencies.
Av is NOT premade for alliance.
Usual horde AND undead talking about easy games
Biggest meme of WoW classic
How sore are yours currently ?
I mean you already draw for straws and start more or less insulting.
For majority nope, it isn’t. For people ranking up it sure is.
But I guess not having “join as group” option is instant “not a premade” for you? Right? Playing devils advocate here, nice job. Are you in your puberty years or something, conquering world with your wisdom?
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Maybe correct. It’s also why you saw a lot of horde advocating against faction-specific queue for logging in.
A lot yes, majority definitely not.
I can see why would such thing screw a lot of people though (on serves with insane imbalances) . Faction queues specific queues would not fix much on majority of servers either though as alliance PvPs quite less (not on all servers obviusly, definitely not on mine - Mograine).
What argument? You clearly have no clue of how queue works, game is instructed to pop a new instance when there is a minimum amount of players in queue, let’s say it waits for 15v15 to sign in (I don’t know the exact number) and now say horde has 10k people online while alliance has 3k, is it hard to understand that horde will most likely stay in queue due to more people waiting to enter? Really how did you even manage to register to the game failing to understand such basic stuff rofl
And how is excatly is it relavent how many peeps stay in queue?
Why are you spilling random nonsense? Where did I say anything about how queue works?
Where did anyone say horde will have “faster queues” if we get all option to join as group (at least)?
What would you lose by horde having option to join as group (or raid) except having harder time to farm honor (this would eliminate bad alliance premades vs good ones, win win situation for top players)? Can you answer at least this question?
More people in queue = harder to sync with others if you have to drop queue every time you fail Hence more difficult to make a premade, not impossible though of course, sometimes it requires 3-4 attempts (here is when insta pop is useful) sometimes it requires 1 attempt (here is when everyone could do it)
This is actually not true. There’s literature you can read about matchmaking systems, if you’re so interested in the mechanical challenges to average out matchmaking.
Well yeah, obviosly. Now how is that an advantage to horde in av then? Seems like completelly opposite to me.