Let’s just delete alliance. They still, instead of PVE and PVP progress, are engaged in riots in oribos, debauchery in Goldshire, whining about how WoW is about to die.
It is better, as a revival measure, to divide them into races, for a long time they went to this, the king is incapable of anything, racial leaders are squabbling among themselves, the time has come for an addon about feudal fragmentation. Let the players choose their own new factions with whom they will unite and with whom not.
So, for example, I know for sure that Dwarves have long dreamed of their city, in which gnomes will not rummage in garbage dumps. And the night elves already almost out and it would be a good time for them to live alone.
By the way, deport the draenei, every time I see a build of a draenei paladin… It’s so embarrassing to share a class with this ridicule. They even allow themselves to dishonor paladins by fleeing combat, even using the Light, bubbling and HSing! What is this? It’s a joke, not a Paladin.
And of course make the WM forced. The experiment failed, phase without WM contain only some sweaty nerds and millions of bots.
With the exception of Baine, the majority of characters were fine with fighting a war against the Alliance, just not a dirty one. I think some people get the idea that being against the Warchief and being for the Alliance is the same thing. It’s not. As the story describes the Horde, both in the case of Sylvanas and Garrosh, the people, the majority waned a war, that is why they got one. Just as the idea that the factions aren’t fighting against each other and is fighting some third party is confused with the factions being friendly to each other. They are not. This isn’t the end of the war, it’s just that period before another inevitable conflict.
You leave out the option of people in general being fed up with war against each other. Merging both factions would make the idea of being for or against one side less relevant. Now, while some might argue that the game title World of Warcraft itself would include faction wars with focus on the PvP point of view, you could also argue that a good common cause has always focused the main content around boss fights in sense of PvE threat.
You will always have those, who prefer PvP and those who rather enjoy PvE and therefore already join RP or PvE servers where factions have little meaning other than not being able to communicate. If you want to stay seperated, you can always go play on a PvP realm or choose a suiting option. And if you’d prefer a merged player base, join / choose RP or PvE. Is really that simple. What would people care about what happens on other realms or gameplay options they didn’t choose?
You people always go to that crap about “people” being fed up with the stuff you say they are. You have no idea what the “people” are fed up with. They could just as easily be fed up with other people asking for the removal of factions.
And like I said, several times, the more they thin the line between factions, the more they will end up having to break it. So yeah, I do care with what happens with this, because I think some of you people have the wrong idea of how this will play out. It’s not gonna be all sunshine and flowers, everyone hugging, kissing and playing other hormone games, it’s just gonna be the loss of a founding pillar of Warcraft.
Oh, but you do? I mean, apparently, the interest for merging factions is there since it has been discussed for ages now.
You think. And while doing so sound very much like devs telling people how to play the game according to your ideas about it.
Those faction based founding pillars of Warcraft you’re talking about were wiped away with 0 open PvP features in Shadowlands already, if you haven’t noticed. So, apparently, even devs don’t deem what you think that important anymore. And while I - think - those features really should stay in the game for those who love PvP, I wouldn’t call merging a sunshine and flower hormone game. As said, besides PvP there’s also something like RP aka founding pillar of mmoRPg. Said founding pillar has its roots in wirtten pen & paper games, where you can greatly feud with your pal while being of different factions. Imagine some would like to use the game in exactly that way but can’t even let their chars communicate or join the same group for RP interaction.
You can twist and turn it all you want but your way of playing the game or viewing its lore never was and never will be the only one that matters.
If you want no Factions then play the other MMOs that has it, no kind of arguments about Cross Faction PvE will never ever let it become reality. No matter if you have to keep shouting about it for 10 more years forward.
At best they can just make a completely different game with no factions, but keep the war in craft!
I don’t wanna ever see a situation where Worgen and Taurens play side by side in a raid. Ugh!
The fact that’s been discussed does not mean you know what most people want. The fact that you want it to happen also does not mean you know what most people want.
Also speaking about twisting and changing meaning, please don’t act as if I’m trying to take away some kind of freedom from you. You never had it in the first place. The game is a two faction game and each faction has it’s onw identity. And while you might not find that important, others might.
I am starting to wonder, if this hole balance mess is becuse of Blizzards dev high egos, considering the lawsuit and thing, I wonder how many of them played horde and why horde in general looks more appealing than alliance, not only becuse of raiding sceene but already whit races, it is like horde got all the better looking races or more intrested races to their side, for example vulpera, highborne, zandalari trolls, where alliance more or less gotten old new races, like mechagnomes, kul tirans (kind of chubby humans), light forege dranei.
you could argue that highmoutain and tauren are the same, but if you look at them, they do look different, where for example dranei and lightforge are pretty much the same exept some smal things that you dont even realice at first.
then looking at why some races are even horde and you realice how wierd it can be, for example nightborne, when they joined the horde, none could understand the reason behind this at all, it was a huge slap in the face for alliance, and combine that whit void elfs, Blizzard knew about the demand to get high elfs, but they could not do it, and instead gave alliance some budget high elfs in the form of void elfs, what again none realy understood.
I do think the problem was that they had no idea what races to give horde at all, so instead of making lightforge and highmountain skins for the tauren they made them in to an allied race, I do think though that the nightborne should have been a neutral race to start whit also and not join any side, or if they did join horde, alliance should have gotten high elfs, you could say this was the final nail in the coffin for many alliance players, where some quitted and others whent horde instead, and after this it continued
Eh… while my point of view is to give players equal options to choose since I can indeed respect different opinions on the matter, you try to push your opinion as the only one valid, so your whole rant literally makes no sense. :')
well we can only hope they do a faction merg, there is always hope.
considering now when it looks like many of the higher ranked people are gone, you can already se some things changing, domion bonus nerf reverted, portals came to the raid, the covenant skill item changes for your spec not all, all those who should have been in game from the start realy, so maby the devs actualy now can do things that they should have done and not been stopped to do, as it looks like they had been.
My point is that you don’t know how or what this merger will affect aside your own perception of enjoyment. It’s fundamental change that will affect everyone.
And I never implied my opinion matters more or your matters less, I did point out that saying that this won’t affect others and that they shouldn’t care, is very presumptuous and wrong. I’m not sure why you are taking it so personal.
How am I taking anything personal? Rather seems you would take the fact personal, that I like the idea of a faction merge tbh. Because I’m not the one calling your opinion crap or claiming I’d speak for the whole player base.
I was just describing another point of view and mentioning a possible compromise. Not sure why you feel the urge to fight that convo down.
Besides your opinion, there’s also another one which more than one or two - people - share apparently, so what’s wrong with paying attention to it and maybe even sympathise with a change at least some would find interesting for once?
It’s not like Blizzard wouldn’t have broken with a bunch of traditions in the past. For good or worse, but I do wonder how extending people’s possibilities to simply choose a style of gameplay would be any more damaging than threads of fate, swapping timelines for levelling, warmode or the basic differenciation between PvP, PvE and RP servers.
I mean if you talk about fundamental changes, what exactly is your fear? Be a bit more precise there. Are you afraid, devs will focus on content for merged factions? Or that PvP will die out on a whole? Which actually shouldn’t happen if the group of hardliners is still as big as you claim it to be.
Also don’t get me wrong I do think they’ve let down the PvP base very much up to now, even if I’m not that much into it.
Don’t give me weird ideas. I (of course) dress myself up as a fun joy ride slide and when they’ve climb up to the top: “BOOM” SURPRISE HEADBUTT YOU LITTLE W****R!
