So here is the playerbase that want no progression in the story or lore whatsoever, but rather wants the game to be frozen in time during a faction war between the Alliance and the Horde. Blizzard should have made a separate game for you so you can stop complaining about any evolutionary move Blizzards make to the story we others are playing for the story progression.
Fine but i think that gnomes-vulpera should have their own faction! somewhere far far away from everyone else
For Garrosh Hellscream Iâll slaughter all alliances.
Thats how I progress on my own story ingame.
I dont need dem to tell me wat to do.
That would be interesting, but I would prefer that rejected and forgotten races be united into one third faction, for example: forest (amani) trolls, ogres, gnolls, arakkoa, drogbar, some kind of vampires, maybe half-breeds etc.
Doesnât need to be a âmergeâ per se - just let people form PvE groups from both factions, and establish a neutral language.
I donât care if NPCs retain their faction identity, declare that they were born in Orgrimmar and will die in Orgrimmar - but for the sake of gameplay, we have got to let people play with all their friends, not just those on the same faction. Thereâs not enough people left for this artificial player divide to continue.
Iâm all for that, as I consider the faction conflict to be responsible for much of the damage done in Horde lore and to the Alliance as well.
The need to come with excuses to reignite the faction conflict every single time just to end it abruptly.
At this point I donât even consider it as something natural, organic but rather a expansion theme.
âSo next expansion we are going to kill each other ?â (BFA)
Or
âSo the next expansion we are teaming up to fight a big bad ?â (SL)
In terms of gameplay, they already started to change the racials in order for the Alliance to perform a bit better.
In terms of lore it seems after SL will be presented with a Light crusade expansion.
It seems this time the Alliance will hold the initiative, with Anduin missing and Turalyon in charge.
On the Horde side the council will probably react to the events as the Alliance did during BFA.
Considering the council isnât very popular amongst more pro-conflict players on the Horde side, we might see people actually changing to play Alliance this time.
Of course this is just me speculating.
They could implement the changes OP suggested, but I think as always they will take the path of least resistance.
Meaning: conflict again in the next expansion.
Why ?
To remind everyone that Horde and Alliance hate each other.
Remember the circle of hatred mentioned to Anduin by Saurfang ?
Yup. It seems factions are here to stay.
The ceasefire is just a pause.
As someone who once believed that the narrative would move forward, away from faction conflict after Legion expansion, I now prefer to watch every present expansion from a safe distance. (One expansion away)
Cheers.
Horde is turned in to red Alliance while blue Alliance is heading to exincion.
Writers care only about Sylv anyway so it doesnât matter.
And thatâs killing the game. If you fail to understand thatâŚ
Many people would say thatâs killing the game, even if that would only concern 5% of the playerbase.
To some extent, it is. And in all honesty, Iâm quite astonished there are still some ce guilds trying to stay on a side that is loosing players. Playing Horde is just a plain better experience, since there is not lacking of players and a regular influx of players.
You donât raid, youâre only playing pvp, which is a game mode where factions are irrelevant, otherwise Horde players would not face Horde players in arena and merc mode would not be a thing.
Itâs quite sad that players that donât face issues still talk aboot those like they know.
You already are.
Nah, it would not.
Like in the u.s, blue states are loosing people and red is gaining.
Itâs the only real setup Iâd feel comfortable being given, wouldnât call it ideal at all tho, it just wouldnât hurt my situation and would make more sense canonically since most dungeons are about 3rd party threats which arenât horde or alliance and collaboration on big threats is as old as WC3
Any step beyond would be a hard no
Fairly sure most games in this genre have factions, this is in no way unique to WoW.
And Iâm not asking to cross that line, since I think factions should be kept for lore purposes. Iâm just asking for that stupid restriction to be lifted for PvE since it has already been removed for pvp.
I think a Mercenary pve mode would be better suited. Where we can switch factions to play with a guild or friends. You could make it only work in Instance areas.
Actually no. The current battlegrounds are based on Factionconflicts. Like Warsonggulch which is based on that the Orcs need wood and so cut trees and the Silverwing is protecting Ashenvale.
Alterac is based on the Frostwolfclan protection their home where they lived since over a decade and the dwarfs not taking care where someone lives because if there are titanic ruins they everyone has to resettle and if they do not want they got evicted by force.
So to delate the faction(difference) they need first a complete worldoverhaul like it happened with Cata and completely redesign all the Battlegrounds that came out before MoP.
Thatâs right, most of them have factions, but apart from the story, they have no point, meaning or significance. Thatâs why wow is a unique mmo game.
I think itâs time for you to return to the alliance. It will be easier for you, believe me. Youâve been crying for far too long.
Why would I? I cried when I was Alliance because the faction does not have enough available raiders to offer.
Iâll return if issues are fixed, ie cross faction pve.
Try raiding as Alliance once before talking aboot that issue.
That will certainly not happen, but feel free to keep crying, itâs none of my business. If nothing else, I hope that now you can finally have a successful esports career.
What in the name of God is esport mentioned?
Because the alliance obviously canât meet your esports ambitions. You cried all the time while you were in the alliance, because supposedly you canât find people for raids. Then you joined the horde, but now youâve been crying for a long time because you donât play in the alliance. TragicomedyâŚ
Then tell me how fun it is to raid off at 9:00 pm because we couldnât gather 20 players. Where is the fun? Itâs not fun. Yet, youâre telling me I should be playing in such faction.
It has the exact point, meaning and significance, just not for you because youâre invested in this game and not the others. It doesnât make WoW unique by any definition.