Why do we even fight? I mean seruselly it was fun in warcraft 1 and 2 and 3 not so much but now boooo!
Its a shame that Rift has effectively died. Now in maintence mode with no new content in years.
Was alright in MoP, until we had to go against our Lord and Savior Garrosh Hellscream.
Heâs a dumb barbarian nothing more he tried to act like garithos did.
Except he was succesful at what he did.
No his racism costed him lordaeron had he had the elves with him theyâd been able to repel the dreadlordâs magic.
So the main matter is that people are mass switching to Horde and that kills Alliance pvp/raids/RP/whatever.
Then instead of asking for a faction merge, which would imply tremendous changes and make a lot of people extremely unhappy, why not ask the devs to take measures to restore the population balance ? Stuff like, make faction swap a free feature ?
if this is a thing in 10.0.0 dont blame us if Stromwind is over runed by Vulperas 
Who would swap in the least populated faction ?
Who would switch over for a small 1% raw output HPS/DPS increase ?
1 Like
The question is, would Alliance still be the least populated faction if faction swap was free ? Apparently people first switched mainly because of racials. Then racials got fixed, but as faction change costs 30 freaking bucks, most didnât switch back.
Then advocate for changes regarding that kind of stuff if you think thatâs one of the reasons behind the depopulation of Alliance ? Rather than pushing for a faction merge
The answer is yes. Nobody would transfer to the least populated faction anyways.
That ship sailed a long time ago. Nobody moves Horde for better racials, players are moving for the greater playerbase.
Would not work, because giving away a 10% buff to the Alliance would backfire. Donât you remember WM bonus ? Giving Alliance more advantages would end up in a greater drama than such pathetic useless tiny irrelavant bonus.
I like you people. You are like politicians, trying to convince people into something that doesnât work just so you have your meaningless pleasure.
For this type of âfaction mergeâ, I am all for it but the only condition I would have is to allow friendly fire and it becomes mandatory feature that is turned on 
Yes. People already pay and move to horde cause alliance is unplayable. They wouldnt move back because it suddenly becomes free cause they still need to have a population to recruit from.
1 Like
Youâre approaching the problem the wrong way. Right now people are moving to Horde because itâs where most people are yes. But there are REASONS to why itâs where most people are. Peeps didnât first start mass switching to Horde for no reasons. Just take measures to reverse the phenomenon ??? Itâs obvious many people switched for practical reasons but are more attracted to Alliance races, aesthetics, lore, whatever. Well if devs fix the problems that caused depopulation of Alliance in the first place, and made faction swap free, those people would have every reason to go back to Alliance (because thatâs really what they want at the end of the day), and so it would quickly repopulate.
WoW is based on a two opposing factions system. Every single one of us joined knowing that this was the game. Itâs devsâ work to make sure factions are decently balanced. Itâs not their work to destroy the core identity of their game and change the very basis of its system.
So are you.
The reasons is as simple as : There are more players. Thatâs it. Itâs as simple as that.
There were reasons back then, 8 years ago. But what was true then is quite irrelevant nowadays. Racials were in fact better in the Horde during MOP for PVE but the Alliance still had an edge in PVP, so it kinda balanced the faction representation. In WOD however, they killed EMFH without destroying orc, belf and troll racials, which lead up to the Horde being the plain superior faction.
And here is why Iâm saying youâre approaching it the wrong way because youâre assuming that phenomenon can be reversed, which it canât. If Alliance races were to deal 10% extra DPS, then thatâs basically creating the problem but the other way around, which would be the Alliance domination after a decade. And thatâs the thing : The Alliance community cannot wait for a literral decade before the situation gets eventually fixed for them, but being broken for the Horde community.
As a CE raider, I just need players to play with in the first place. Lore and aesthetics come next.
Then youâre asking Horde cry babies to accept dealing less damages than their Alliance counterpart. That will not happen, that will also backfire so Blizzard will have to back down, which would solve nothing.
By the way, Alliance racials are better for M+, yet, Alliance is being played in MDI only, since those players are still playing Horde on the live servers. If factions really mattered for instance players, then MDI should forbid those guys to play Alliance chars in the tournament realms if theyâre not even playing the blue faction in the first place.
Cross faction PVE has nothing to do with orcs being allowed into stormwind.
It has been scientifically proven that even if the 2 factions were balanced in terms of population and perks, then one will end up taking over. Itâs quite an achievement that Blizzard somehow managed to keep the balance up until Legion. Once Antorus progress ended, it went downhill and Blizzard did nothing.
And now, let me ask you one simple question : whatâs the difference between cross faction PVE and having every single PVE player being concentrated in the Horde ? Because I see none, fundamentally speaking.
1 Like
Not even a decade. Give ally a 10% edge and free transfers? Why would anyone stay horde? 
I started the transition in BFA because it was almost impossible to find keys at the times I played. When there was 3-4 keys up total on Alliance side I had to scroll on horde side to see all the keys.
Didnât pay to faction transfer most of the chars, just lvled new ones.
Iâve got my druid and priest on alliance at 60 and play them now but holy⌠Itâs so hard to get groups on alliance compared to on horde.
Iâd rather play alliance because the races look better but itâs just so hard to do anything related to m+ on alliance. Even low keys. You can pretty much only play on Alliance during certain hours of the day if you want to be able to do keys and then it totally dies off after those hours.
2 Likes
Cross faction raiding, yes. Merging the factions, No.
Iâve quoted lots of stuff where Ion has talked about cross faction like a kind of merc mode is something they are looking into implementing.
However there are concerns that only raiding is being looked at, but I think we will know more when Blizzard are ready to share what theyâve been working on.
1 Like
How come private PvE-servers doesnât have any issue uniting the factions? When devs says this is impossible, it is solely because they do not have any desire doing so.
Factions are not merged in there. They are only for PVE purposes, so an orc canât (And should not) enter SW freely.
1 Like