Let's talk Balance of Power

Three weeks ago I decided to finally give in, and do the questline ‘Balance of Power’
As a player who started playing WoW in shadowlands I had no Legion rep/quests done at all to help from the start.
Doing all the pre-stuff for the questline took about 20-25? hours of gameplay; all the quests + reputation. This was lovely as I got to experience some of the great story lines of Legion.
But then I got the actual questline, and wow. What an arrogant insult to the player base:
the timegating. My first raid-quest was to gather some stuff from mythic Darkheart Thicket, but that was already a quest in the pre-requisites for the storyline, so I had to wait 4 days for reset, ok.
Reset comes and I finish the first part of the quest, and then I have to collect essences from Emerald nightmare. I got 29/30 during my first run, so I had to wait a full week for reset. Fun.

The comes this reset, and I get to the end: Nighthold raid, where you have to collect 20 nightshards. I got 8. quick googling says average is 2-3 raids for this part alone.

TL;DR why is a legacy questline timegated so it takes 3-4 weeks to complete? It’s utter insanity and platant dissrespect to the players. Oh also - the quest achievement is not even account bound, so you have to do it again if you want the artifact skin-rewards on another character. Lol.

Please change this ASAP Blizzard, this is unfathomably insane

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And it took me countless of weeks running MC to exalt Hydraxian Waterlords to add that rep to the counter, so?

Why everything need to be doable in 1 day?

Only agree with it being account bound.

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As someone who hasn’t obtained BoP appearances, played during legion, and has the chain active at various points on multiple classes… my biggest issue is the reputation requirements , and as you said timegating.

If you could blast through it ? No problem
OR
Make it account bound so you only need to do it once

What we have at the moment is lunacy and laziness.
That’s all there is to it

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I did it for every single class, during Legion when the requirements were harder.

Suck it up.

Sorry to hear that.

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Awesome, have a cookie. :cookie:

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I had it rough, so you must suffer through it!

I don’t get it why people have this attachment to items in games, i have quite a few artifact tower appearances, i would like it if blizzard gave us the ability to get them again. I don’t give a crap about “exclusivity”.

Yea you should earn it, but no need to make it a complete slog. Like this is a game, it should be fun, not frustrating and tedious.

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Can you say it louder for the people at the back :love_you_gesture: :heart:

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Completely agree, no idea why people don’t want others to get stuff in the game. There’s plenty of people that aquire stuff in later expansions because its way more accessible, it’s doesn’t devalue people who got it when it’s current, its makes it more inclusive…I wish more people would understand this.

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In the process of completing it a second time, because I didn’t have the stomach to do it again in less than a year.

It really should be account bound.

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3-4 weeks!!!? Oh you sweet summer child I laugh at your 3-4 weeks try doing Shadowmourne, Dragonwrath or Fangs of the Father.

Also just because I’m a nasty one, that quest, it’s not account bound meaning you have to do it over and over and over again for each class you want the appearance.

Just do the quest lines, that should bring you pretty close if not up revered, also If I remember correctly Nightborne brough you to exalted.

Hey that’s my shtick, get your own, paladin.

I have the Mage Tower mogs I wanted (26/36 was my count), I also am all for letting people earn them now, that said BoP is not exclusive, I don’t agree that it’s requirements should be lowered just because it’s old content, also it’s just a 3 week quest chain for a cool mog, let it have it’s prestige. And like I said 3 weeks is nothing compared to the old legendary quest chains. Also yes, It should be account wide.

No one is against OP getting BoP and its already way easier to do than back in Legion.
Oh how people forget how the Suramar quests were locked behind rep and we had to grind WQ after WQ praying for emissaries to complete the story… seriously why did people like that zone.

Some very weird comments from people who I assume think they are special because they did it when the content was current. I mean, who cares?
I’m not advocating for the quest-grind to be shorter, I’m advocating solely for the purpose of removing the raid-lockout (only for the needed quest items)

Telling me boomer stories of how some of you have suffered is just weird. You aren’t cool or special because you played the game back then, or have already done the questline.
I’m not sure I’ll ever agree to artificially time-gating LEGACY content. I mean, take a lot at one of the recolours for the BoP skins; 8 legion world bosses - that’s TWO months to get a skin that’s 10 minutes of work, just spread over 8 weeks for no reason.

Disagreeing is totally fine, but saying stuff like ‘suck it up’ is just not constructive or meaningful

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Neither are condescending posts like this.

As has been pointed out, it’s already way easier to get than before.

Be thankful you don’t have to do what some of us had to to get the same thing.

No issue with folk getting it, but the point of a game is to play it, not to log in and be given stuff.

Completely agree OP, we aren’t special and neither are you so you should go through more or less the exact same thing we had to do.
Quest should still be account wide though.

Removing the raidlocking won’t be “giving anything” - It’d just remove the time-gating. I don’t care if it’s super hard or not, timegating legacy content is extremely bad (imo)

I don’t mind when Balance of Power took that long

The problem is when you force me to do it again

The key issue with this? Those fond memories that you got invest the first time around? Now get annoying because you can repeat the journey but you cannot repeat that first player experience again, THAT’S something personal.

It ain’t making me “love the game again”
You’re making me hate it.

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Doing that on multiple chars, where there is already grinds in current content, in my opinion, isn’t necessary or healthy.
Account bound , or lower rep and timegating aspects
I know you disagree and that’s fine :slight_smile:

I disagree that the req should be lowered, but I agree that it should be account bound.

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:heart: :handshake:
I’d be very happy with that