Lets talk Torghast( Remove all the other Topics)

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Goodevening Everyone.

I am Rabies the Magnificent, Its an honour.( With Bewbs now due to populair demand)
I am here to talk about Torghast.
this is not a complain topic, This is not one of the random curse topics.

The Goal of Torghast is the challenge. It is to find out how far you can get before it becomes impossible.
I see ALOT of topic of people crying, shouting, cursing, not realising, not understanding, what the goal of Torghast is.

IF you cant make lvl 8 solo, and you cant do it in a group, YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.
You are not ready. You dont have the gear, or the skill or both. You’re not ready.
THATS THE POINT. Thats suposed to happen.
The first few levels where verry easy, and that spoiled us, you, all of you.
The whole point of Torhast is to give you a sense of danger, acomplishment, outside of raid. Its not an island expedition. There SHOULD be a challenge, there SHOULD be a chance of falliure.
Thats the point.

Now i agree, the reward for Torghast is verry dull. Just some Soulash, the problem here is obvious. People have the feeling that they are missing out on progression if they dont max out their soulash. And that is because, its the only proper way to get it, is via Torghast.

Still. Torghast does not need to be nerfed. You need to get better. Thats the point. If you cant make it, thats on you, thats on your group. You dont have the Gear, or the skill or the group or both. You are not ready. You are not prepared.

Go out into the world, And get better gear, Start pushing those key’s. Start doing raids. Start farming your battlegrounds for the honour upgrades. And come back when you’re better. Get food, Flasks, Enchants and try to push that final floor of the week.

And if you dont make it, you dont make it, you try again NEXT WEEK.

The only change Torghast needs, right now, is the reward system. Give players a chance to get soulash outside of Torghast. Give Torghast an extra function. Let it drop some low ilvl gear to help level alts. Some tokens for transmog gear. Torghast does not need some love. Buts it not too hard. You are not ready.

What at are your toughts about Torghast. How can it be improved, do we need more objectives, Gear, pets, mounts?
Do we need more sources of soulash?

As for myself.
I like Torghast, its a challenge, i like not being able to do everything( i just couldnt do it last week, not enough time it took too long) I have not used a group yet to go trough it.
It does need some love, better rewards. But other then that. Its amazing.

Thankyou for reading.
I Rabies the Magnificent approve of this message.

Kind regards
Rabies the Magnificent.

Ps, English is not my first language. The post is probably full of grammatical and spelling errors. Please ignore them, dont be that guy.

P.P.S The point of this topic is not to curse or yell or cry. Please focus on Constructive feedback and discussion. Dont be that capslock crying whiny guy.

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I fail to see why we needed yet another thread on this subject to be honest.

Regardless, I shall answer:

Torghast would benefit from being shorter. Leave the difficulty as it is now, but cut the number of floors per layer in half and keep the number of anima powers the same. Having 6 floors per layer does not make the run harder. It just makes it longer and more tedious.

I respect you and people who enjoy such stuff, but I personally do not consider spending an hour clearing trash fun.

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Because, they are all just crying and whining, not understanding what Torghast is really about.
People want everything RIGHT NOW and wine when it happens later

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Layer 6 Upper Reaches and everything becomes unkillable and one smacks me.

187 druid, spent 5 hours trying, tried all different specs.

Probably just bad.

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My advice is to do it as guardian. Most of the damage in Torghast is physical, which guardian excels against, plus everything has lower HP if you are a tank. Do slow pulls, kill everything, explore every corner for anima powers, open all the chests and puzzles and target only the powers which grant you a good single target increase and which work well with other similar powers. Make sure to interrupt what you can, CC when needed and root/kite when necessary in order to get far away enough to heal yourself. Good luck!

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Don’t worry you’re not.

Went from rolling layer 6 ezpz to being destroyed by mid bosses. From what i see they overtuned mid bosses but end bosses are still easy (as gardian). They have a +50% damage + 50% haste now.

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I tried as guardian this week, last week it was pretty easy with layer 3. But this week, its just way to hard especially when the floor bosses are casters. They have like 1 sec casts, interupting and they keep spamming another one. In my case it might be a gear issue since im just 151 ilvl or just bad rng. Tried 3 times and managed to get to floor 2 on layer 4. Popping everything I have got and I get them to around 20% then I die.

This week is much much harder for tanks also, even at layer 4. Im not clueless about the spec or anything like that, its just to hard atm. For me personally.

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So, no you’re absolutely wrong. Torghast was supposed to be cleaned quickly, and the challenging part was supposed to be the one for cosmetics.

Problem is Blizzard steal other games genre, implement them poorly, and people still try to pretend it’s good cuz made by blizzard…

Battle pets are bad, torghast is bad, battlefronts were terrible.

there’s been list of problems about thorgast.

(Btw the thing taking too long was advertised to be 30Min to 1hour a week for the leg farm, turns out it’s much much much longer)

Nothing that was advertised is actually true in this expansion.

The trash are not fun, the cc done by the mobs are shorter than my abilites to cc them. I’m not dying because i fail mechanics but because it’s a bullet sponge with soft enrage.

At no point in the 5 first level you can find out if you’ve got good powers or not .

Either you’ve got the good class/covenant/spec combination or you’re basically deleted.

Oh you’re BM so i’ve a BM it’s faceroll…
Turns out DH vengeance post nerf has to do more damage while taking more and that’s “fun” and is one that got 0 boost in anima powers whatsoever.

Most anima powers are completely useless (speed/mawrats related) never help because last boss nearly all have speed boost anyway and no rats.

And the only “challenging” aspect is to figure out if you can get lucky with anima and be strong enough to facetank every unavoidable damage or not.

Not challenging, not fun.

(btw gear makes no sense and cosmetics are for the previously advertised CHALLENGING part of torghast where farming ashes was advertised as easy … figure that out if you can?

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That’s still the case though?

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Hmm, I see. Magic damage is an issue for guardian, so I can see why you are struggling with it. I suggest you interrupt what you can, CC one cast with intimidating roar, bash another and then root and LoS to heal yourself.

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Upper Reaches has A LOT of caster end of floor bosses.

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You’re forgetting about the unpreventable stacking buff that elites get to prevent kiting/LoS etc.

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So my point being. There’s no point for ashes farm to be challenging because cosmetics infinite grind was supposed to be the one challenging.

Your answer “well cosmetic part will be challenging”… Makes sense

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It does? That is unfortunate. Still, I believe that guardian is still best for it, due to the lower HP of enemies. But I can see how it can be an issue for it, seeing as magic damage is guardian’s biggest weakness.

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Majority of the whiners are only saying what you said… it needs some love (balance) better rewards for time investment (pets, cosmetics).

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It’s not though? The challenging part will come with twisting corridors.

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What Torghast needs is to be MUCH shorter. If you can clear 1 trash pack, you can clear them all - so why make you kill 50? There could have been literally 10 times fewer enemies and the challenge would not have been any different - just fight a 3-5 medium-large packs on each floor and 1 boss. Keep them challenging, keep them short.

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Is it not possible to kill those elites before they reach 10 stacks? Even then, they should die before they get too high stacks, no? How much HP do they have at layer 7 and 8 for tanks?

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Don’t bother. He done it in group, on coms with people I assume raids with… he’s comparing apples and oranges.

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Magic damage mobs with 1 sec cast, 10k damage roughly. Spamming.