LFD & VE were a huge mistake

[Drae-hellscream (Drae)]

Half-ogre’s an interesting idea. They could just pull them out of thin air like they did VE and vulpera too.

Personally I’m waiting for the Kul Tiran/Zandalari hybrids to become playable though. You know, those blood troll “war mothers”.

[Uruk-argent-dawn (Uruk)]

Allied Races were a mistake.

[Kungfood-outland]

@Yannila-silvermoon-2659

Try the undead priests then, they’re hurt by the light.

While I do agree, I don’t think that necessarily changes their path or beliefs.
Even if the light hurts the undead that may be a sacrifice they’re willing to make to stay true to themselves?
For example human priests such as Alonsus Faol and Calia, although raised as a member of the forsaken continue to use the light.
But for me, a Void Elf has chosen that path to become a Void Elf so why then would they go a full 180 and return to the light?

[Saeryn-auchindoun]

@Drae-hellscream

Half-ogre’s an interesting idea. They could just pull them out of thin air like they did VE and vulpera too.

They could pull them out of Outland… There’s a tribe of Mok’nathal Half-Ogres there. Rexxar’s people.
Sure, they are a small tribe, but with Void Elves introduced, low numbers isn’t an argument for whether something is playable or not.

@Drae-hellscream

Personally I’m waiting for the Kul Tiran/Zandalari hybrids to become playable though. You know, those blood troll “war mothers”.

Ew…
I’ll quote you on this one.

@Drae-hellscream

better-looking races is the smarter move to add.

[Saeryn-auchindoun]

@Kungfood-outland

But for me, a Void Elf has chosen that path to become a Void Elf so why then would they go a full 180 and return to the light?

Edgelords… Before the change to Void Elf they studied the “darkness” because it was edgy and cool.

Now they realize that among the Void Elves, everyone is into the “darkness” so they aren’t edgy anymore…
Then they start studying the Light, which makes them the edgiest edgelords among the Void Elves.

[Eviette-silvermoon]

Agreed VE were a mistake. They should have just added HE like the player base requested. Yet instead created this BS VE lore out of thin air to shoehorn their introduction. Would have saved so much time and so much nonsense, especially now they are given them the HE visuals.

[Drae-hellscream (Drae)]

I imagine quite a few of the void elves were non-casters along as guards and scouts and whatnot that had little interest in messing with void magic.

EDIT: it’s not like their non-caster classes use the light, my bad.

[Dâmien-argent-dawn]

@Deea-ravencrest

Though I would prefer if they would give us Man’ari.

Would race change in that moment and be the true disciple of Master Thal’kiel

[Sigfrieda-the-venture-co]

@Teann-arathor

They should’ve been customization options for the core races in the first place.

@Uruk-argent-dawn

Allied Races were a mistake.

What if they became sub-races instead.
They could be rearranged like this - while also making room for templates for the new customizations:

https://i.ibb.co/zrL1qkj/subrace-demonyms-customization-mockup.jpg

More info here:

Sub-race names & templates tied to the new customization options

Many people are pointing out that some allied races feel lacking in terms of customization. Others are saying that whatever additional customization we are given for the core races in Shadowlands, it won’t be as cool as getting a proper allied race and we are just going to be the same Bronzebeard dwarves and Darkspear trolls as always. So here’s hope Blizzard can possibly consider the addition of some kind of optional templates within the new character customization screen. The assumption is t…

[Daltor-aggramar (Daltor)]

@Kungfood-outland

and yet, because they are given the priest option they are allowed to be a shadow priest

Undead cannot be holy priests in lore, but they can in gameplay because Blizzard doesn’t see the point in spec locking classes.

@Kungfood-outland

Likewise a VE has dedicated their life to the all consuming void and yet they can choose to weild the light to heal their allies…

See example above.

@Kungfood-outland

Given how opposing these two forces are they would not agree with one another’s beliefs in the slightest.

It’s almost like rational beings can put aside their own believes and work together towards a mutual goal. Who would have thought.

[Golganar-draenor]

All alliance allied race were a mistake.

[anon49327549]

@Kungfood-outland

Thier racial themes are too similar to that of a specific class

Nah, they are just racier race, like all the allied races. The only exception are Vulpera. Dark Irons are just drunker, deeper dwarves, LFD are just more fanatical about the light, HMT are just hippier Tauren.

[Zandare-stormrage]

As usual. People are mixing game mechanics and lore.

Both Lightforged and Void Elves got access to Priests that’s ok lorewise. The fact that they can be shadow/holy respectively ingame is a game mechanics thing, so you will have to live with it.

If you are a hardcore roleplayer - just never spec shadow/holy and you are fine. For everyone else - it’s just another option.

With Lightforged in particular - you can’t not give them access to priests, but Blizz is not going to do something silly like block you from switching to Shadow ingame just because your the race choice is not great for that one. They can’t give you a 1/2 of a priest or 1/3 of a priest.