Got to love the people that wanna argue that a manual system can ever compete with a automatic system.
I know an automated system can make groups faster than manual will ever be able.
In a auto system everyone is invited.
In a manual system the leader gets to decide who gets in and who gets out and if you are declined that’s another round of waiting to get accepted by another party.
Cheers.
Yes of course gekko, it’s a well known fact every WoW player who has a high m+ or cleared mythic raids sits at their pc 24/7.
Do you?
Here, let me turn that on it’s head for you.
My favorite part, an excuse that high skill players use in order to enhance their ‘quality’ of skill
Sounds just as ridiculous eh?
Sorry we can’t ALL be uber gamers like you matey sitting in front of a PC for 12 hours a day but ya know…
Life and all that shmazzle.
No I look at the health of the game as I see it and what I think might be best for the aspects I play of the game, and I completely disregard the fact the game was designed for a huge demographic of players who mostly play different ways.
That’s what you should have said.
I kinda have the feeling you are in marriage with the OP or something to still talk so much junk.
The gear you got was gear you used to attend higher content. Everyone who played back then in TBC did Dungeons farmed Rep just to get gear to be able to raid. Casual or not. The gear from LFR is just there for the sake of it being there. It has no purpose.
Where do you have the statistics? Also why are we talking about LFG? I told already that LFG was a good addition. LFR is just where the problem lies. Also only less people raiding is the motivation behind a game finally trying it. I mean you bought World of Warcraft not only for doing all the things you needed before raiding in TBC or did you? LFR supports nothing of that.
I don’t care about the Gear or what Ilvl LFR rewards. I care about the structure behind it and how it affects the game.
let’s open up another book how would you do marketing with WoW? with LFR? Young players are not interested in the slightest doing easy poo content.
Edit: I love talking with casuals who absolutely have no clue how modern gaming actually works. I know you’re old and stuff but let’s keep it a bit real.
The statistics come from Blizzard themselves? Have you seen the ilevel of gear from LFR? It’s useless. Removing LFR would just reduce the player base not make raiding stronger. As I said before, LFR is useless to you because of the way you’ve decided to play not for everyone else, So it serves a purpose, whether you like it or not.
I also like the victim card play from my reply of you stating people shouldn’t buy gaming pcs unless they agree with your attitude. That comment alone honestly tells me you have a self centered attitude about the subject.
Clearly you do judging by your second sentence.
“Oh you play LFR? go play something else!”
Dear oh dear how insecure do you have to be of your previous standing as a gm of a guild that you feel the need to tell everyone you don’t care then a sentence later tell anyone who plays a lower difficulty to play something else?
In 8.3 this gear is basically soft-removed as there is very little reason to run any queuable content. Even a simple world quest cache gives loot that is 15 item levels better than LFR loot (and 30 ilvl’s better than HC dng loot). Visions push this to 470 which is damn close to mythic raid ilevel.
Tbh nowadays LFR, Normal and Heroic are very close to eachother in terms of difficulty. Steps are rather subtle. Ye LFR is still the easiest and gives you stacking buff if you wipe on it, but Normal mode is laughably easy as well. Heroic isn’t much harder than Normal. And then there is Mythic which is leagues above heroic mode. The gap is immense, you try to get into it and after first few bosses you are hitting things that are on a completely different level. It’s like playing arena, you are 1600, play and have fun, then the game starts matching you with 2400 opponents.
I think this perception of raid difficulty is because you can easily overgear anything but not mythic mode. The game is handing strong loot left and right, people are doing heroic pugs with 470 ilvl required which is far above what the raid actually drops. Once you hit mythic you are not overgearing the content (or at least, not by as much) and it becomes hard.
Why would anyone think that LFR players would be in their mythic guild if it didn’t exist? The same issue would exist but the people would just quit. Why would they want the game to die?
I never claimed that I’m a hardcore player who is extremely good at everything in this game, why do you get salty 
I like LFR it is a good option for disabled people etc but I won’t understand people who can’t even heroic raid a few bosses.
You are just dumb nothing else to be said there. I play Overwatch too and i encounter toxicity every day this is what I meant you will always find toxicity and you will always experience it. this is Gaming. Is it acceptable? No. can you hide yourself from it? No.
I care about the game like already said. If i was self centered I’d tell you to force you to play Arenas and get high rating with it.
Removing LFR would make the playerbase adapt, smarter and find ways to actually make friends and play the MMO and not the afk simulator LFR today is.
Ok , I’ll let you prove me wrong, Let’s make a group of people with LFR level gear that the content is aimed at, We will go afk, See what happens? Stop assuming you can go afk and not do tactics. The group not doing tactics in LFR = a wipe. How about taking your high raiding gear off instead of facerolling content and judging something you over gear?
Let’s remove normal dungeons and quest mobs because they don’t kill me when I go afk when I’m in high raiding gear.
“I’m dumb” My education results disagree.
I didn’t say that?
Learn to read.
This is what I said.
Lfr players only do Lfr cause it exists and offers the path of less resistance, if it didn’t exist they would do other content in the game like, normal raids, therefor revitalizing the guilds with a new influx of players.
I didn’t say Lfr players… Get out.
Don’t try to mislead people to make a point
You can go into LFR with 10 high geared players and the other 15 staying afk. You will kill the Boss with staying afk I’m not even meaing being literal afk, rather you can ignore mechanics which you shouldn’t. This is why N’zoth on LFR is so hard for the majority of LFR players because there is one mechanic you cannot avoid like in every other encounter in LFR.
You can do that in normal and heroic, So your point is different why? So you’re against overgearing something not the actual content.
Because you nitpicked this point of everything I said and try to defend LFR with it with the last of your non-logical words.
you can’t ignore mechanics in Heroic. And you also can’t ignore key mechanics in Normal. In LFR these mechanics for the most of the time do not even exist.
You can’t ignore tactics in LFR either unless you way overgear it. Add me on bnet, I’ll prove it to you?
Put your money where your mouth is.
They wouldn’t. A person in a mythic guild worth their salt wouldn’t touch LFR with a rusty barge pole. Blizzard has clearly made it (in this expansion at least) that LFR serves a purpose of someone seeing a conclusion to a storyline. That is all. It was once a way of slowly gearing, but since WQ’s give better gear than LFR that purpose is long gone. Now I only farm LFR’s for echoes. Once the pre patch hits I won’t be touching LFR again. but you’ve clearly missed my point I’ve been trying to make this entire thread.
I am AGAINST Blizzard removing ANY difficulty mode which allows players to see any form of raid environment, as long as Blizzard insists on concluding storylines behind a raid… I couldn’t care less if everyone on the planet cleared Nyalotha on mythic and i was the only one with a full clear of LFR. Whjat I do care about however is some people claiming they can tell other people what to do or not to do based on THEIR game.
And as for “well… just join a guild…”
Again. That would be assuming that every person in the guild you joins, does everything you do at the same time…
Oh I’m sorry gekko I mistook your post for yet another one of the countless patronising replies to people from other people who place such high esteem on a video game.
And No I’m not feeling particularly salty, but if you want me tobe salty for you so you can score an internet forum point (Go Gekkos!) there’s a delightful beach about an hour’s drive from here, but I will need to work for… well. You know,
Life and all that shmazzle.
(Why is your profile hidden btw?)
Currently playing whack-a-mole in group finder trying to get mythic+15 achievement done…
Because apparently lot of people have a fetish for spamming groups in the group finder rather than letting it just be automated with appropriate requirements.
“But make your own group!” Well… I need some very specific keys and not in the mood of farming for 1/12 chance to get the dungeon i need.
Logical point being even if you overgear you can’t ignore heroic mechanics or normal mechanics.
You are literally acting like a Child who needs explaination of everything being said. Maybe you are not even experienced in heroic or normal content I did not look you up yet. This might be another theory.
No matter what name calling you resort to it doesn’t change facts. You can’t ignore tactics in LFR, Seems you’ve been watching to many youtube videos of people ranting about LFR.
Oh noes I’m about to be inspected by MR gamer pc himself.