Lol, you’re not very bright are you? People making posts like this allow for Blizz to see the feedback and reverse the decision or let it only play out in Season 1.
You call me the Snowflake but you seem to be getting very upset with the fact somebody is criticising your posts, Whose the real snowflake here?
It wont revert. Mark my words “group loot” is set in stone DF
And also, do you rly think they take feedback from forums
Kinda long shot:)
Gn man
If Bliz see a marked disengagement from LFR then they will wonder why and perhaps they may look to the forums (as well as other forms of feedback) to better understand why that is happening.
Forum posts on their own likely won’t have much impact but along side in-game shifts it will be useful.
6 bosses killed in lfr on my shadow priest and not one roll won 
Disperselol is abit of a Dipshizz to think this change is permanent. If participation drops off and people are vocal about it then they will revert it, plus they’ve said they’re only experimenting with it for S1 already.
No it’s not. The average for a particular piece loot appearing for a single person is fairly low with personal loot. With group loot you’re sharing that chance with everyone, then you have to pray you’ll win the roll on top of that.
In a normal raid it’s not an issue, because everyone co-operates to make sure the right person gets the drop. In LFR nobody cares about what you want, it’s a free for all.
Blizz can keep group loot. Just revert personal loot back for LFR, then everyone is happy
I still dont get why they implemented it TBH…
I mean has anybody ever said ‘I love RNG, we need more of it in the game!’
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oh mate… dont get me started…
i love RNG so much… its all i dream of and subscribe for in this game.
the thought of never getting the items i want because of pure chance mechanics gets me so excited to log in and play this game every day…
getting the same item in my vault 2 weeks in a row makes me want to log in and open it again to see if i can make it 3 times lucky!
losing rolls to a mythic geared player in LFR is my ideal fun!!!
im so happy they get items for transmogs…
and i get to run the raid again to find the item again.
To be honest I’d go whole raids frequently on personal loot with getting a single item. The distribution method is not the problem, the amount of loot and lack of bad luck protection is.
Same druid would have won the bracers even with personal loot. I don’t understand what is difficult to understand about group loot. People are getting mad at it for the wrong reasons.
You should have -more- drops if anything but otherwise it works exactly the same as before.
Well if you look at the loot “rules” set by blizzard with the “new” system, rolling on an item lower than your current ilvl should result in an overall lower roll result. Like the self imposed [/roll 50] for off spec.
Not to defend this stupid dumb system but…
6 bosses in personal loot wasn’t really a garuantee for an item either. 10 however was garuanteed one item. Now it’s nothing garuanteed.
Group loot in LFR is a terrible idea.
People will of course roll need, either out of spite, selfishness or “helping a friend”. People would also honestly be advised to roll “need” so they can get something to use as a bargaining chip.
People in there are understandably in it for themselves, the loot rules should reflect that.
It works exactly same way as personal loot rofl.
With personal loot all players need on items by default. There is literaly no difference.
You had no guarnatted items with peesonal loot at any point of ot existence.
Actually, the chance of getting loot in LFR is higher now, because most people will actually pass on loot they don’t need.
With the old system, people would often get loot they didn’t need, and because they were lazy they would just not bother with trading, or the stupid trading restrictions made it impossible to trade.
This.
Most of the time I did LFR during SL I got maybe one gear piece while doing all wings of a raid… and often that one item wasn’t even what I’d hoped for.
Now you get the chance to participate more in loot drops, but yes, that way you also “lose out” on more, because it doesn’t mean you get more loot in general.
I’ll take group loot over personal loot every day, because it gives you the feeling you achieved something after killing the boss when you see all those items in front of your eyes. Just need some spine to be happy for others who win instead of you…
Yet you did.
In theory, with PL, there was a 15% drop chance per boss per player. Which comes down to 3 garuanteed items, possibly 4 items per raid (if very lucky).
Since the current raid tiers have 10 (or 11) bosses per raid it basicly means there are on average 30 items per 20 man raid.
That basicly means mathematically you gain one piece of loot every 1.5 boss kill.
This ofcourse is strictly mathematically speaking as we all have had raids where we get one item, sometimes two items.
Either way, the chance you get absolutely nothing is so incredibly small, it is basicly neglectable. It might be one raid every 50 
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Personal loot was added in MoP iirc, but the boss dropped 4 items instead of 3 AND had the bonus roll token.
I raided every week for S1-S3 with 4-5 chars in LFR (and higher) and every raid atleast obtained one item on every char.
Currently I raided 5 raids split on 2 chars and received one item, previously with PL this would’ve been ATLEAST 5 items…
(Also, we had bosses where 4 mail boots dropped with strictly one mail user in the raid )
TLDR: Group loot is trash. Even if you ignore the “Ninja-ing” items in Pug raids.
Loot is dependent on party size… Not luck.