Hey!
I recently posted about returning to the game, and I did.
I decided to roll rogue because it has always been a favourite of mine.
I enjoy the class fantasy and gameplay.
Stealth obviously is awesome, but also the potential to farm gold with pickpocket and sneaking up to veins and herbs out in the wild or in dungeons.
I also like being of service to my friends by opening lockboxes and doors for them.
My question is regarding the viability of the rogue in endgame.
I was told that I’ll likely not see much action unless I focus on PvP.
Can anyone of you do a TL;DR of the pros and cons of rogue life in TBC?
In T4 and T5 rogue is not gonna be very good DPS unfortunately.
However if you can stick out the long PvE grind and get to T6 and possibly a set of glaives to go with it rogues start doing at least competent DPS.
The “Ignore enemy armor” stat, or armor penetration if you will, is really strong but only really starts showing up in T6 content.
Cons- not desired at all in pve outside of heroics
Pros- the most broken overpowered class in TBC
Getting the glaives would be a dream haha. Maybe if I’m the only core raiding rogue. But I’d settle for whatever alternatives are there, as long as the guild would bring me to raids! I will happily be the improved exposed armor beach. 
Rogues are fine, the problem is people think they’re not. I mained a rogue all through Classic and loved it, but I wouldn’t recommend anyone playing a rogue in TBC simply for the fact that people have prejudice towards the class. But, if you really want to play a rogue - play a rogue.
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they are just bad.
melee in general are awful and useless.
sad but true.
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No one likes rogues because of that meta list of classes/specs… they are not useless… they are great in heroics… not the best someone wants in a 25 man… mostly its either none or 1 in the whole raid… having a healer/tank friend or raidleader friend makes your life easier… having none of these will make you struggle for atleast raid content now.
youre just meta slave
and still get pwned by rogues in pvp
do what i did, buy blinkstrike, say “inv rogue blinkstrike” while linking it, join any pug for any content and have an ez life
(and you can pump if u get an actual group that buffs you in any way)
edit: 350g/h as engi/miner in steamvaults is also a big plus for rogue, u can farm literally anything u decide u want
Pros :
Bis pvp class
Bis heroic class
The best cc in the game - stun, sap, blind, gouge
Easy to play
One of best farming classess
Evasion, vanish, sprint
Cons :
All these meta slaves doesnt want that much rogues in raids and in guilds
Rogues are more like support class for pvE and they are top tier class fot pvP. If u enjoy it - play it. Find guild and stick with it. In our guild we have 2 rogs for each Kara grp (2 grps). One of em is top performer - 2nd dps on Gruul today.
Pros. Your are playing a Chad class.
Cons. All the Stuarts will be jealous resulting into missing out.
It’s the best class in PvP, arguably. In Heroics you’re good if you play Rogue to the fullest but you’re not desired in groups regardless of that, on the whole. That’s largely due to poor ability to target switch, weak dps in early gear and weak dps when not given good group synergy.
In raids it’s much the same, Rogues are highly gear/buff dependant to perform, though for taking Expose Armor one Rogue is invaluable to the raid, but just take into account that using Expose Armor usually involves either gimping your opening dps or making your raid wait longer than they’d like.
In T4 they have decent single target, good cleave with Blade Flurry but are not a top performing spec on the whole. Rogues do get better the longer the expansion goes on though, due to strong gear scaling. In the Original TBC Rogues were extremely popular in dungeons/raiding, but in Classic they aren’t seen in the same light.
Rogues do great damage on single target. The reason people dont want them for dungeons is that they have nearly no aoe and hardly any group utility (such as totems or other buffs).
Rogues also have a lot of loot competition, warriors, enh shamans, feral druids, hunters and to some extent even paladins.
they dont though.
reality is, they are melee ( a negative )
they deal bad aoe damage.
bad single target damage.
and offer zero utility.
overall trash.
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blade flurry actually very good aoe with 2minutes cool down
only reason why rogues are not meta cause they cant buff their party members tryhard
do you know what meta is ?
remember, as a good rogue u can still outdps 80% of the people u meet so take all the stuff you see here with a grain of salt
(i did 1k in maggy last week while in a damn caster group and on interrupt duty, top bm hunter was 1.3k, only me and hunters on top 5)
Pros:
-Very mobile, easy to escape hairy situations
-Multiple strong CC tools for solo, PvP and HC’s
-Powerful 2 target cleave as combat
-Simple rotation, based on energy and CPs (no worrying about your mana!). Few skills to keep track of.
-Cooldowns are powerful and cover multiple types of incoming damage (for defensives).
-Higher baseline dodge chance.
Cons:
-AoE is limited to 2 target, and even then, only available to Combat Rogues
-Like many other classes, has no class healing tools
-Weak armor and low HP means squishiness when getting focused.
-Poisons and Lockpick, while very useful, are professions themselves you need to keep leveled to be relevant.
-World buffs stop working at 63, after that you’ll notice a huge loss in damage.
-Sap is subpar to Poly as you can’t sap in battle. Blind has a cooldown so is again prohibitive.
-Damage might be lacking or sloggish outside of CDs.
I think, if you like a rogue, by all means play it!
Back in the original TBC, we always kept a rogue because we had NO IDEA what future content would come, and whether they would receive buffs or insane items or so.
Even as we kept them back then, they were always middle road in DPS. Not the worst, not the best. Nice to have.
In that specific case, a nice player is always nice to have.
Looking at nowadays minmaxing, people will tell you not to roll rogue. However looking at my own guild, our rogues are both pretty good whereas the other dps classes are pretty mediocre. You could be in such a guild.
Here is an example of our current rogue being 2nd place only surpassed by BM hunter total overkill (the hunter can just do fck whatever and still get on top) But it shows rogue can still go a long way if you just play well.
[Warcraft Logs - Combat Analysis for Warcraft](http s://classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CWmRXk6G37ZaYxvB/#boss=-2&difficulty=0)