Lore & feasability question regarding SL

So, firstly I’d just like to make it clear that I didn’t like SL and therefore didn’t give a monkeys about the lore. That being said, I am curious about the denizens of the SL and their ability to go to Azeroth, or at least the way that we know Azeroth and have some sort of corporeal form.

There’s probably enough information for me to research it but I don’t care enough to do that and I’m just curious how feasible it would be for SL dwellers to come to Azeroth and just hang out?

You made the best case for why most people ignore Shadowlands lore.

Idc and I don’t know, nor do I care to know. And I assume most agree with me

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Creatures from the shadowlands cant really go into our existance, like the Kyrian goes into the inbetween where the spirits waits to be taken onwards.

We have seen… pretty much no proof that the other beings apart from say the brokers, dreadlords and kyrian can enter another realm of existence.

the Dreadlords are a very special case and were specifically made to go between realms of existance by the looks of it.

kyrians can go into the veil and retrieve souls.

the brokers…are technically not even native to the shadowlands or at least the ones we have seen, but they also…are it’s weird.

devourers can in theory enter azeroth and if they do…oh boy are we in deep-trouble

so in essence in my point of view, no you cant take your cute companion from the shadowlands into azeroth, could you make it into a exotic beast sure and say its from azeroth.

that’s just my opinion on it.

Extremely. There’s truly nothing actually stopping them, there’s no natural laws keeping them out, no rules against it, nothing. Nothing they bothered to inform the audience of, at least. There’s portals set up for easy travel.

By all means, it is completely feasible because Blizzard has absolutely not given any reason to assume otherwise.

Is it a good idea, however? Absolutely not because nobody liked Shadowlands.

You could with seemingly extreme ease just buy one off a broker considering they go to Azeroth ezpz just fine.

A lot of people have (understandably) just kind of assumed that there’s rules to this stuff but like… there isn’t.

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The armies if Maldraxxus attack a Legion World in their cinematic

Not that made any sense, the Legion never really wanted to threaten the realm of death… why Maldraxxus attacked them is a mystery :roll_eyes:

I’m sure Blizzard just recycled Illidan’s cinematic here, you have the same 2 Felguards there too, also Maldraxxi are catching different kind of beings from different planes of existence to train against them or fight in the arena. Could be the case aswell.

About that one… I’m not that sure :thinking:
I think the Brokers are the one who capture those entinties and “sell them” to the Maldraxxi - we even had a quest chain to unlock a daily where we travelled to an alien world to capture something

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I meant that in the cinematic was the training with already captured demons. But thanks for the correction.

The only ones who really could do so en masse would be the Necrolords. As shown by Draka’s Afterlife episode, the Necrolords can go to other worlds outside the realm of death if need be. Brokers can, as we chased the leader of Cartel So in the Tazavesh dungeon. I think that all who could would just need a VERY good reason to do so.

I think we’re skirting around the most important part about Shadowlands and its possible usage in RP; that being that it is completely unfeasible to use it in roleplay at any level for anything other than a death knight’s backstory.

Shadowlands’ lore usually presents from 2 to up to 4 completely contradicting ways of how everything works down to a very fundamental level, to the point that getting a group of people that would agree with what you’re doing is completely out of the question, especially as Shadowlands is not well liked as a storyline to begin with.

You could be roleplaying a Maldraxxus character that speaks about how it’s died several times and been reconstructed over and over with the same soul attached and only now they are becoming worthy of being a proper construct, and then someone else joins in and roleplays a Maldraxxi who says that you can only die once and then you’re dead for good - two stances which are both presented as canon through the lore as well as through the storywriters’ comments.

It’s not that you cannot use the Shadowlands, it’s that practically everything in the Shadowlands is Wrath of the Lich King using a Warhammer: Age of Sigmar Minecraft Texture Pack where the writers were viciously contradicting one another for 2 years straight to the point where it’s less of a headache to just write stuff based on the Wrath of the Lich King lore they rebranded in the first place and call it a day.

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But I want to be a smithing owl!

Grab an Arakkoa prism and go. Final offer. Only the ones from Outland though.

No. Owl.
Arakkoa stink. They squawk far too much.

They don’t say “you hooooo” either.

Blizzard did briefly retain some sanity and removed quests with covenants doing just that during a PTR cycle. Considering how close it was to live and the effort put into the small questline I can’t help but think the writers back the idea that crossing over is barely an inconvenience these days.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812009976776097843/957712759871639552/unknown.png

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Not gonna comment on if they definitely can or cannot definitively cross over to Azeroth cause after reading replies I don’t think there’s a good answer, but I think the better question to ask is “Why would they?”

The Shadowlands are literally infinite to the point that Azeroth offers nothing that you can’t already find there, save for maybe the World Soul, and denizens of the Shadowlands, except the Brokers, have duties and responsibilities to attend to that means they’d need a very good reason to leave and hang out on Azeroth.

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As a honorary Venthyr, I can tell you, we have regular Azeroth exhibits during our Embert Courts
It is not that popular tho’
Actually the world is quite overrated

But who defines what counts?

No Murloc Afterlife shown. Therefore SL does not exist for me.
Mrgl.

Forgive me for not having the lore to back this up, so can someone correct me or tell me more if I’m wrong?
Wasn’t the old version of the Shadowlands from WotLK basically combined with the new SL version? That there is basically a “ghost plane” of Azeroth that works as our link to the Shadowlands. Basically where the spirit healers and vengeful remnants reside, and likely where the Kyrians interact with the humans before bringing them across the veil.

I want as much as the next guy for SL race rp to never be a thing, but shouldn’t they at least be able to visit that plane if so? Like, even if they came here, they wouldn’t be able to interact with the living. Just curious. I’m sorry if it’s off topic.