Losing a 30 ilvl ring upgrade against someone with a 50 ilvls above ring, because they want to vendor it. Loving group loot.
Edit he also got a BOE drop, why aren’t BOEs also group loot???
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The BoE item would have been from trash, which is all personalized now.
I’m just waiting for people to come in this thread and defend that players actions. You’ll know the individuals by name, once you see them repeating the same things in multiple threads.
I believe, BoEs from trash, was always personal and never a group loot thing. This being because EVERYONE will roll need for the gold, not to use.
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This cannot be real… Like unless you grouped up with Super satan… come on.
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I would guess he was needing it for a friend or taking bids behind the scenes.
I do not understand why the system doesn’t recognise that the player has higher items already. It seems very hit and miss. Although having said that, with certain strong items you will take the ilvl loss because they perform better.
Doesn’t sound like that happened on this occasion. Were both his rings high ilvl?
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Yeah, both were way better. I wasn’t the only one in the group who was mad.
I said it once and I said it again:
If someone kills a boss that someone has the right to roll on the loot for whatever reason that one sees fit.
You are entitled if you think that you should get items but others that do the same work shouldnt.
It maybe not the nicest thing to do but its also not nice to loose a roll and cry in the forum about it
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It is because with the way stats scale right now itemlevel isn’t the only determining factor, and locking people out of gear because they have a higher ilvl version of it would not go down well.
For me a heroic version of my tier gloves should be an upgrade for Mistweaver, but since my normal one has gloves it is actually not an upgrade at all. For rings it is even worse because some secondary stats are inferior to others for your spec.
It sadly leaves room for this sort of thing to happen. We also have plenty of people who actively said they will do something like this in order to force Blizzard to implement personal loot in raids again.
This. As an ele: If it has crit you dont use it.
People could also just stop crying as if they are killing the boss alone
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yes its real.
people need for all to vendor
last night a monk won leather shoes from last part lfr. i was on my druid. i had 428 from previous patch. he had the SAME ONES. the new drop had avoidance.
he needed.
his other gear was all hero/champion gear so hes not min maxing at that level. still took it. i offered 1000g and he didnt even answer and left after needing on ALL loot on last boss (before rolls finished)
I do the same and I’ll tell you why: around 70% of low ilvl players that do lfr, just insta die or they just stay afk and don’t dps/heal.
I’m not a charity, this means I don’t do free boosts. You all complain that high ilvl players “steal” your items, but you don’t do anything to deserve them and without those “stealers” in your group, you will NEVER defeat the bosses.
In order to deserve that need roll on the items you need to:
- check your class rotation
- study the fight mechanics beforehand
- come prepared with consumables
If you do all the 3 points above, then yes, you have the right to complain. If you don’t, then just accept the free boost and pay up if you want the item.
I know it’s hard to swallow, but it’s the reality.
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So you do LFR to earn gold then? Since you don’t need to be there I mean… And your ilvl is already above and you don’t need that.
Your greed comes before need? 
Why are you doing LFR if you already out gear that? Take the loot from lowbies to sell it later… Like wtf
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If thats how he wanna spent his time? Why not.
He invests as much time as the other in the LFR. So he technically should be allowed to roll.
Also: doing higher content can be expensive! So he also NEEDS the money 
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One gold world quest already earns you way more than vendoring a loot does. This is just sadistic. Holy crap.
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Kinda fitting if you ask me.
Imagine you roll on loot and dont get it and than be so pathetic and inspect the charakter that won the load to see he/she really needs it.
The core behind that reaction is thinking that for whatever reason you deserve the loot more than the one that won the roll.
Its pure petty
What the hell… Greed doesn’t outdo need tho… and thats what your speaking in favor off does.
Your saying peoples greed is worth just as much as need and people shouldn’t think their need weighs more than your greed. Literally in this case when you need on a item worth 60 gold at a vendor. That is the ultimate pettiness.
Like there is a need and a greed option in the game for literally this. You click need when you actually greed. And call people petty and entitled later?
Yep i am drunk and high again but no. I refuse. Denied. Access denied.
I mean I dont do any of this xD
But yes, I think its extremly petty to look at people after they won something to see if they really needed… thats also greed.
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Yep… yeah okey then. what can i say.
You guys don’t get it, it’s not about you getting 60g on it from the vendor, it’s the message it sends: that guy preferred to vendor it instead of giving the item to an underperforming character that will probably stay afk in the raid with or without that item. Simple as that.
You and breaths sure have this propensity to hop into threads and pre-emptively try to crap on dissenting opinions.
The worst is that nobody ‘normally’ says this for rings. They do say people have legitimate reasons to roll on mogs / trinkets etc since they helped kill the boss. After all, if they needed nothing at all it makes no sense that they’d be there.
There is no hard and fast rule that says you may only roll if its an ilevel upgrade (although I and many others do that because its etiquette, despite your preemptive whine against other opinions)
Naw, you’re just going out of your way to be a douche. Most people in lfr don’t die on purpose or out of spite. Many are bad, and many have bad gear. That dude doing 25k dps wasn’t put on earth to annoy you, they have 428 ilevel and aren’t great at the game. You rolling on that and winning it just to prove a point is a net negative to the game, no good comes of it.
Don’t get me wrong, you’re still ‘allowed’ to do it and doing so is your choice. Just don’t try to sell us some story where you end up looking anything other than the bad guy please.
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This is why we need PL back. GL depends too much on people’s decency, and that just doesn’t work because not everyone has the same moral compass. Now that players can trade gold across realms, the issues with GL are further emphasized. It’s no longer just about wanting transmogs, but now you can also need on items for the sole purpose of selling them to people who actually need them.
Ironically, the best way to get PL back, or GL changed, is probably to roll need on everything you can, because the more problems and complaints it causes, the more likely it is that the developers will make changes. It’s sad that this is “necessary”.