Loving Midnight

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Last I seriously played was Shadowlands. This is a huge step up! Whoever is responsible, great job.

The good:

  • Alleria, a brutal badass
  • Arator, a nice decent kid
  • Alleria + Arator + Turalyon family dynamic; finally no weird “modern audience” crap in a mass market video game, just good old family values
  • Bots in dungeons - no longer have to wait 10 to 60 minutes to get into a dungeon just to do story or an exploratory run. And they’re quite decent too. Stopping, turning around to look at me, pointing at things - very human like, love it.
  • Hero talents, or subspecs as I call them - loving more options, much easier to find that perfect fantasy now
  • More solo/small group options with Rituals and Delves that we run just the two of us with a friend
  • Killing WeakAuras is a good thing, I want game content to be designed for humans, not addons
  • Environmental design is top, but that was always the case
  • Moving towards progressive dynamic events aka “map meta” from Guild Wars 2 aka Voidstrikes is the right step, I wish WoW embraced that more, it’s much more fun than static quest hubs that are done once and forgotten
  • Skyriding is good (but not perfect)
  • “Stay a while and listen” is a great option, but in part of course depends on the dialog in question. I would say more than half the time it was worth listening to.

The bad:

  • Faerin Lothar. Damn, can’t stand that girl. Constantly talking about her feelings, holding hands, omg. I think that was the worst I had to endure so far, which is great if that’s the only complaint I have for the state of the game. Yes I know she’s War Within, but I’m talking Shadowlands to Midnight jump so for me that was new.
  • As a Mail character, I kill a world boss and get … cloth? What? I still have PTSD from getting 4 weapons via Accolades and now this? Why, Blizzard? Why? Reminds me of the Fifth Element scene where Bruce Willis asks Ray to give him the gun.

The mediocre:

  • With skyriding it’s very hard to do a close vertical repositioning. Jump key doesn’t just take you higher, it pushes you forward and at very high speeds, so it’s extremely clunky to try to get anywhere near with precision.
  • There are really good ground mounts in the game. Problem is, there is no reason to get them or use them because they, well, can’t fly. And flying is mechanically superior for getting around. I wish there was a way to empower/upgrade mounts somehow to make them flying. And swimming (fast). Would be nice progression branches, something to work on and very rewarding.
  • The overall GUI experience is still meh. It’s much better than it was of course, with the cooldown manager, edit mode parameters, but:
    • “Immersion” mod is still king compared to the ancient “page from a book” quest giving. Immersion makes it actually enjoyable to read the quest lines.
    • “Combat Mode” + “DynamicCam” are still needed to get a decent action camera experience (GW2 and ESO like). They’re doing a great job, but I wish I didn’t have to set them up every time I install WoW or recommend WoW to somebody.
    • Font management / configuration is still a mess. You gotta copy your font file into Fonts/ under special names, then every addon has its own embedded logic for fonts, ugh. Doable, but I wish Blizzard simply used / gave access to fonts already installed on Windows.
  • Chat UI widget is still bad. Luckily, addons solve that, but it the standard one needs heavy rework anyway: vertical resizing, transcript copy into clipboard - at the very least.

I haven’t seen all of the end game Midnight content yet, so theoretically there’s even more good stuff. But I just gotta say, for the first time in WoW’s history I’m really enjoying it, almost as much as GW2. It’s just, requires a lot of effort to install all the addons to push the game into a decent state.

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I think Midnight has a lot of negatives for me but when it comes to gameplay i’ve been really enjoying it, and I can’t deny there’s been some stand out characters too.

I wasn’t crazy about the main story… but Zul’jan is a character I really like. I am really excited to see where his story arc takes him

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I think Midnight is great so far. If you ignore the poorly rushed Elf story that is. They took the good stuff from TWW and made it better. I will be having no issues about the rest of the year. More then enough content to burn my time.

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I dont know… I dont particulary like the elf peace and the void theme.
About the content.. invasions are the most boring activity i did in wow since a long time, delves are good but maybe too packed of mobs. Ritual sites.. yeah nice to do once per week.
I like abundance since is refreshing.
The zones? Eversong is gorgeous but i miss the old soudtrack, zulaman good. Haranir marvelous (but with too many useless mobs) and i dont like voidstorm.
Cant talk about dungeon and raid since im doin just the normal ones for weekly or for the story.
Professions? Unbalanced. Bs is always a mess. Tailoring ok. Enchanting smooth.
Since i missed the 1st months im not indulging in housing. Ill play later.
Its a 7 5/10 for me.

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If you do m+ or raiding ( which was the only active part of the game for the last 5+ years ) sure the game is fun.

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I feel the same. In spite of my skepticism I am enjoying the gameplay…..well most of it anyway. There are some events that are sloppy and pointless.

Made me laugh as I too thought he was twenty something year old, until everyone on the forums pointed out his a 40 year old grown man. I guess his VA tried his best with the material he was given.

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He is not a kid. He was born shortly before the alliance invaded Draenor. That means by human standards he is already a fully grown adult.

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I want to love Midnight more than I do now, but I just can’t.

The core stuff is okay, nothing changes here. However, I don’t like locations and activities. In DF Soup and Time Rifts were genuinely fun activities, but stuff from both TWW and Midnight just doesn’t hit like that. I’d rather go and do some Thorgast or farm Zereth Mortis than step into stormarion assaults, abundances or ritual sites again.

I also don’t really like how they turned most of specs into burst swing misery. Really don’t like that you now have to blast your major buttons which previously were kept for elite packs. I don’t like to hit like a wet noodle with basic rotation in full Champion gear, if anything. And a lot of classes that I was playing before just don’t feel the same.

And I also really, REALLY don’t like the snowballing backlog of bugs and overall unpolished state of the game for second time in a row.

HOWEVER. It’s still more fun than TWW, the only excuse for existence of which was Undermine and Trenchcoat xmogs. And I’m happy that we now finally have Velf DHs with ranged spec, something I was waiting for since Legion. Huge win.

So overall it’s just okay. Not great, not terrible. I’d say 6.5-7/10.

P.S.: happy that Umbric is now fully in charge for Ren’dorei after they turned Alleria into Taylor Swift.

P.P.S.: whole plot aside, I like how they turned both Lothraxion and Turalyon into lightblinded dorks with temper tantrum problems. Wanted to play Paladin this time, but with this kind of representation - nah, thank you. Arathor is fine tho.

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I wish a roguelite activity like ff14’s Palace of the Dead or WoW’s Torghast was “current” in every expansion. I love the concept. Delves aren’t that.

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