Lycara's Mediation still a very problematic talent for feral despite changes

Ferals can currently use lycara’s meditation for at least 1.5% damage increase in single target by shapeshifting into moonkin form during downtime and sunfiring then switching back to get 12% finisher and periodic damage. Zero feral players want to do this and the point of the talent was also never too do this. Please just remove the talent its more problematic than its worth to keep it around.

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totally agree

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I appreciate the thought of trying something new, but I’d rather get something completely else as a new toy to play with.

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Please fix this is ridicules

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Yes please, I’d rather have the old TF CD reset on Predator than this.

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Please delete this, i like my cat being a cat.

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Let cats be cats, delete Lycaras and give us something far less problematic.

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We need a fix for that its not fun to play and conflicting with the rp of the spec

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Please stop this cruelty! I want to be a cat and not a fake owl

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Hopefully this will be fixed

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To further clarify the issue, Lycara’s Meditation not only enables owlweaving, but entering other forms to gain the buff in general. If we didn’t have moonkin form available again, it would still be a gain to enter bear form, do nothing and leave it for the versatility buff you’d gain.

Owlweaving and the negative connotations of it aside, I believe this is an extremely undesirable gameplay loop - from both players’ perspective and from the class designers’ perspective. Utilising other forms is cool, but being forced to go into bear or moonkin once every 15 seconds to literally do nothing in it is not the way to achieve that sought-after druid class fantasy.

Another implication that this ‘rotation’ has is that we’re using our interrupt rotationally, off cooldown. I don’t think I need to explain how this is an awful idea. Fluid Form has been a blessing to play with, and it feels even nicer now that Skull Bash has been added to it, but it’ll be plagued by Lycara’s Meditation.

I hope the takeaway from this post isn’t “giving moonkin form back to non-balance druids was a bad idea” or “expanding the QoL of Fluid Form was a mistake”, because these are awesome things that every druid player is glad to have. The problem lies solely within the Lycara’s Meditation talent, and the solution is to either completely redesign it, or remove it from the game.

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Caelusproudm is here. let’s go.

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Please Blizz stop this nonsense

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Pls just remove it, no one wants to be a chicken

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Victory.

  • Feral
    • Sunfire damage reduced by 40%.
    • Lycara’s Teachings’ Mastery bonus granted from being in Moonkin Form reduced by 66%.
      Think i would have been better to remove the talent since bear weaving could still be a thing but we take those
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Lycara’s is probably one of the worst new talents introduced ever.
Delete it.

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Now why in the world would a feral go into moonkin form :frowning:

Or should it just be rewritten to only give the bear form versa buff and take back its time because 1.6 seconds is a lot. Or should the buff last longer. But otherwise I like this talent and I think it fits the druid lore wise.

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